I would argue that common Christian sentiments didn't leave that "phase" in the west until after WWII. Antisemitism was incredibly common and mainstream by today's standards across Europe and the United States, and only lost mainstream popularity with the end of the war in Europe, after the breadth of the Holocaust became apparent and the United States became the dominant political force. People fail to realize just how recently it was that things like casual racism and antisemitism were socially acceptable, and the extent to which they still are.
Saying that Islam is going through a "phase" is ridiculous, since the causes of religious extremism across the Islamic world have very little to do with the religion itself. In the Middle East, European colonialism ended in a rushed and incomplete fashion (which is true of essentially everywhere, but particularly so in the Middle East), and the results were typical of post-colonial states elsewhere. Popular nationalist movements led by a minority of educated anti-imperialists were given/seized power, devolved into dictatorships, and from then on became more preoccupied with retaining power than anything else. After the invasion of Suez and Nasser's growing international popularity, associating with the West became increasingly problematic for leaders, and those that didn't drift over to Soviet influence toed of line of exploiting popular resentment and making security/economic agreements with (primarily) the United States.
So for around 60 years the people living in these newly created countries been living under dictators both unable to completely endorse and embrace the west (the United States) and completely dependent on them (the United States), all while failing to advance things like education and civil rights, clinging to whatever forces can keep them in power (the United States). Pro-democratic uprisings across the Middle East largely failed recently, which isn't surprising considering the total lack of any democratic tradition, and any kind of a nationalist movement can't move forward when the alleged successors to the nationalist movements are the ones in power. So what's left? You've got a population of disgruntled overwhelmingly conservative and disenfranchised people permeated with a general sense of dissatisfaction and mistrust, in a time period (since WWI) when it's seemed that they and their religion have experienced nothing but intrusion and exploitation by foreigners and autocrats. It's completely understandable for terrorist groups to emerge from that kind of an environment of helplessness and ubiquitous resentment, and the fact that religion happens to be the excuse in this case is more due to things like the creation of Israel and the genuine piety of the population than the nature of Islam itself.
If anyone does want to analyze Islam for confirmation of preconceived violence and oppression, the dredges of centuries old propaganda and inherited cultural ignorance, I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the Hadiths. Most of the practices we in the west view as typical of the religion don't come from the Qur'an, but rather these compilations of observations regarding the life of Muhammad, and they partially account for the great variation present between sects. It's like trying to write a hate speech against Catholics with only the bible as reference.
Well, we agree on one thing (Actually, Two, i also agree about christianity contribution to anti-semitism). its not a phase in islam. it was always here, sometimes below surface, sometimes as apparent as always but hidden from the western masses because the media was not as far reaching as it is now.
And of course it has to do with religion itself, like it had been for a thousand years, its just that lately, decades of years or so, the issues had different side causes that made people think religion has had nothing to do with it, but it was always there below the surface.
Lets take that claim of yours of the creation of israel as an "excuse". obviously, its an interesting opinion that disregard one very important factor: The creation of israel was only opposed by the arab countries because israelis were jews. if they had been muslims, there wouldn't be a problem at all, as evidently, no arab country attacked jordan in 1948. of course, there would be small territorial disputes here and there, but the independence war, six days war and yom kipur wars? only the result of religion, not an excuse for other motives or sentiments, a definite reason.
And obviously you should judge christianity first and foremost on the New testament and the bible, just like Islam should be judged on the Quran. i mean, we could judge islam by bahai texts, but that wouldn't be very telling.
a fictional nation.
u wot m8?
Call the drama police and arrest this man. Amalek has no mention in any other source but the bible, as opposed to many other nations that are mentioned in the bible and has other sources that also mention them.
Where are the mass muslim protests against ISIS?
Here is a small selection of stories.
This might cause cognitive conflict in you, BP. Or maybe not, depending on how deep your preclusions go.
That's not a mass protest. there were less than 50 people there. nothing like the riots when someone made a caricature of muhammad, or the anti-jews protests in europe.
BP, there were like 6 separate links there, from hundreds a simple googling threw back at me from all over the EU, north Africa and the US. I notice you missed link about the 20,000 Muslims who marched in Germany - that is comparable to the number of people who show up to any major protest in the EU about nearly anything. Or the link to the "hundreds" who marched in Paris. Or link to the article that discusses how FOX news is not reporting on the significant number of American Muslims protesing up and down the US. Or the link to the article that discusses a group of Moroccans developing a large following on YouTube for speaking out against ISIS - a process being repeated by British Muslims, also reported in the same article. Nor the link form a local news station in Oklahoma, again showing how Muslims in the US are voicing their opposition. Or the hundreds of Muslim protestors who had a protest outside the Saudi embassy in London. You go ahead and ignore those links just like you are apparently ignoring the fact that a majority of Muslims in the west are actually speaking out against ISIS. Single in on the example I posted that almost conforms to your preclusions - in any case, 50 Kurds organising a protest at an London airport that closes a terminal is still a big deal - considering the level of security present there.
I missed that 20K march in germany. care to link to it? (The rest are very small)
No, he said that we should just abolish ALL religion, but ESPECIALLY Islan.
Well, we should aspire to it. i don't think we should outright ban any and all religious practice because obviously, that would result in a war between non-religious and religious people, but i do think that we should lawfully forbid religious indoctrination and any religious practice or education prior to the age of 18. its not surprising that 99% of all religious followers have parents that follow the same religion.
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