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[FantasticDorf]

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How does werebeast number affect evil biomes? How does number of secrets affect placement of civs? Why do these things happen?

This is a speculative stone throw of a a idea but maybe all the "Patient Zero" original were-creatures originate in evil biomes locally then spread out to nearby settlements (infecting people as the go) given that were-people turn up at places like your fortress because they are programmed to roam until they find a settlement. That's my theory atleast.

Its definitely a question to pose to Toady.

> Trivial fact - All troll clothes are non defined as being able to fit trolls, but are listed as "Large" ("This is a large breastplate", rather than a "breastplate made to fit trolls") & based off player height perspective (tall adventurer vs small adventurer) the size definition varies. Trolls tailor fittings for custom made troll clothes are as big as a polar bear man.

[☼Another☼]

Werebeast happen when people profane temples, so that's not the thing that's going on.

[Libash_Thunderhead]

You can fish pond turtles in a digged well in the cavern, for some reason.

[Fleeting Frames]

You can fish pond turtles at any dwarf-made pool, if there's any to fish.

But you know, if you make embark cavern floor a pond, you can fish cave fish from it, even if your embark cavern had no water in it.

In other news, one can get bad thoughts from bad performances (here performed by visitor with no general performance skills at all)

(Most of that gal's thoughts are about being interested in a performance, though there is one other boredom as well.)

[anewaname]

You can fish pond turtles in a digged well in the cavern, for some reason.

In an ocean biome, you can fish ocean-y fish from a freshwater aquifer layer.

[FantasticDorf]

You can fish pond turtles in a digged well in the cavern, for some reason.

In an ocean biome, you can fish ocean-y fish from a freshwater aquifer layer.

Each site population on a sitemap is relevant to (hence why you get overlaps, and evil rains & zombies come from the neighbour terrain) the terrain around it in the immediate radius of where the city is. Because worldmap cities are often the full size of a 'map tile' they will use this perimiter rule to collect materials & animals (hence why elves who settle between land borders sometimes have alternative variety of creatures)

So technically you're fishing all the fish being repopulated from your & the surrounding tiles, same for pond turtles since its discriminating by height outside of the range of the caverns. If its within the biome & also appropriate for light conditions it'll act the same.

[YetAnotherLurker]

So, artifact instruments created by moody dwarves can also be made out of unusual materials that wouldn't normally be used. However, artifact instruments apparently lack the usual part descriptions, e.g. "The strings are made out of steel."

This absurdly valuable instrument is worth 2,918,400☼:

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Nilkez, "Hammernegate", a raw adamantine onget   
This is a raw adamantine onget.  All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality.  It is studded with adamantine, decorated with giraffe leather and hemp and encircled with bands of round raw adamantine cabochons.  This object menaces with spikes of steel and adamantine. 
On the item is an image of Ew?Charmstirred the nakash snakeman and Neba Heavensdwelling the pandashi woman in raw adamantine.  Neba Heavensdwelling is striking down Ew?Charmstirred.  The artwork relates to the killing of the nakash snakeman Ew?Charmstirred by the pandashi woman Neba Heavensdwelling with a bronze great axe in The Mellow Murk in the early spring of 107 during Irafe Mifava, "The Assault of Blazes". 

On the item is an image of dwarves in elephant leather.  The dwarves are contemplating.  The artwork relates to a ceremony held by The Creative Dyes in Youthfulink as part of The Festival of Wheeling in the early summer of 70 during The 35th Main Ceremony of The Festival of Wheeling.

On the item is an image of Th宬ut Bellconfined the dwarf and dwarves in emerald.  Th宬ut Bellconfined is surrounded by the dwarves.  The artwork relates to the ascension of the dwarf Th宬ut Bellconfined to the position of queen of The Creative Dyes in 57. 

The onget is a huge stationary metal-stringed instrument with a wooden frame and a wooden body.  The strings are suspended from the frame down to the body and the musician picks the thirty-eight strings with a glass plectrum.  Tuning is accomplished by pegs.  The instrument has a four-and-a-half octave range going from an extremely low to a middle pitch.  At all pitches, the instrument has a vibrating timbre.  It has two registers.  The low register has a full focused strident timbre.  The high register begins at very low pitch and has a strained focused nasal timbre.

I also have this, worth 2,193,600☼:

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Ozorritan, "The Subtle Beginning", a adamantine edzul   
This is a adamantine edzul.  All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality.  It is encrusted with cushion prase opal cabochons, studded with adamantine and encircled with bands of round stoneware cabochons.  This object menaces with spikes of moss opal. 
On the item is an image of Linebreaks the adamantine long sword in giant olm bone. 

The edzul is a large stationary percussion instrument.  It consists of five wooden chimes attached to a wooden stand.  The musician strikes the chimes with stone mallets.  The instrument has a one octave range going from a middle to a mid-high pitch.  The instrument has a full bright focused vibrating timbre.

They're the two most valuable objects in my fort. I don't think I've ever seen them actually get played though.

[FantasticDorf]

Both those instruments require to be placed in a room or meeting area (with bards assigned to somewhere or nowhere imparticular) to be played (hence they are stationary placeable objects)

[YetAnotherLurker]

Both those instruments require to be placed in a room or meeting area (with bards assigned to somewhere or nowhere imparticular) to be played (hence they are stationary placeable objects)

They've both been constructed in my tavern for years.

[Bumber]

You need a bard with skill in the relevant instrument, I think.

[Fleeting Frames]

You need somebody to play a music/dance piece that requires that instrument.

If they can, dabbling skill is enough to play on the instrument.

Now, can't really choose the music available to you, so just have to pay attention what instruments they simulate in your tavern with at least 5x5 floor space (though I've seen dancers take nearly twice as much in both directions sometimes).

[YetAnotherLurker]

Yeah, lack of performers with the appropriate instrument skills or musical forms probably explains it. Honestly, I don't even know if I've got a single capable instrumentalist in my fort, almost all of my resident and visiting performers are poets, and most of them are goblins or elves besides. I'll have to check through my dwarves to see if any of them have the necessary skills.

[FantasticDorf]

Yeah, lack of performers with the appropriate instrument skills or musical forms probably explains it. Honestly, I don't even know if I've got a single capable instrumentalist in my fort, almost all of my resident and visiting performers are poets, and most of them are goblins or elves besides. I'll have to check through my dwarves to see if any of them have the necessary skills.

> Relevant trivial finding - Even if musicians are trained in one particular thing, they will always have a overriding musical preference so equally try every spare person/people with non-important and non intensive jobs to work part time until you find someone who prefers pianos.

[Libash_Thunderhead]

Human children wear large clothes as well.

[pikachu17]

My population just went from 4. to 134. How? Well. I reclaimed a fort that had greater fire imps(those things in Fortress Defense, might be wrong name), who were apparently already reclaiming it. After reclaiming it, and killing some of the imps, I retired it. I unretired it, went to others in the unit list to see if there were any imps. weren't any, so I went to citizen, and discovered 130 fire imps on my side. Now I have a mayor. Considering that I had 4 dwarves, and dwarvish civs were dead, this is good. Haven't tested to make sure they'll do jobs.