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Re: Trivial findings
« Reply #1125 on: May 02, 2017, 06:17:31 am »

Forgotten beasts that become undead are no longer counted as guests, uninvited or caged, and frankly I think thats just plain rude.
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Re: Trivial findings
« Reply #1126 on: May 02, 2017, 10:34:01 pm »

...I am disappointed. I had a whole bunch of worn clothing underneath a bridge, for the purpose of atom smashing. Turns out, a soap bridge with no walls to either side will no longer atom smash, it just FLINGS clothing everywhere.

Now I have to make a new one in a tunnel somewhere...
Does this work with other things under a soap bridge? Or any bridge with no walls?
Can we throw axes in random directions with this?
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« Reply #1127 on: May 02, 2017, 11:04:48 pm »

...I am disappointed. I had a whole bunch of worn clothing underneath a bridge, for the purpose of atom smashing. Turns out, a soap bridge with no walls to either side will no longer atom smash, it just FLINGS clothing everywhere.

Now I have to make a new one in a tunnel somewhere...
Are you sure it was a raising bridge and not a retracting one? It sounds like a coinstar room.
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Re: Trivial findings
« Reply #1128 on: May 03, 2017, 01:37:13 am »

Yeah i would suspect you didnt have the bridge raised first. If a bridge is raised with stuff on it the stuff will be sent flying, but if its lowered with stuff underneath it that stuff will be destroyed.
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« Reply #1129 on: May 03, 2017, 03:53:40 am »

It was definitely not in the flat position, so it might've been me not noticing I built it as a retracting instead of raising one. Pretty sure it was though...

Regardless, I made one in a tunnel that does work, so it wasn't a case of "well that no longer works" either way. Plus this way my dwarves stop going upstairs into my undercover fort entrance and start puking all over shit from the light coming in the trade route entrance.
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Re: Trivial findings
« Reply #1130 on: May 03, 2017, 06:46:48 am »

Werecreatures don't seem to want to destroy locked doors. They will wreck all the workshops and other constructions they can reach, but if they step in a room with a door, I can lock the door and they will stay trapped forever, despite being perfectly capable of destroying doors.
Hmm.. in my current 43.05 play burrowed weredwarves won't destroy locked doors.. but once they change back & can path to something they will!?!

I have seen weres walled in their hospital rooms to destroy everything in the room, including the door. It usually takes them several transformation cycles but eventually there's only a naked and confused were-infected dwarf in an otherwise empty room.

Maybe it takes longer than those few full moon days to destroy a quality door? Even FB:s and clowns seem to take a while at it.

Based on a bunch of accidental testing with werepandas it appears that they destroy exactly 1 furniture item per transformation. Maybe there is a coded limit so the spend some of the time mauling people or maybe it is cause building destruction is no longer instant and it just takes them too long to break more than one.
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Re: Trivial findings
« Reply #1131 on: May 03, 2017, 12:59:34 pm »

Werecreatures don't seem to want to destroy locked doors. They will wreck all the workshops and other constructions they can reach, but if they step in a room with a door, I can lock the door and they will stay trapped forever, despite being perfectly capable of destroying doors.
Hmm.. in my current 43.05 play burrowed weredwarves won't destroy locked doors.. but once they change back & can path to something they will!?!

I have seen weres walled in their hospital rooms to destroy everything in the room, including the door. It usually takes them several transformation cycles but eventually there's only a naked and confused were-infected dwarf in an otherwise empty room.

Maybe it takes longer than those few full moon days to destroy a quality door? Even FB:s and clowns seem to take a while at it.

Based on a bunch of accidental testing with werepandas it appears that they destroy exactly 1 furniture item per transformation. Maybe there is a coded limit so the spend some of the time mauling people or maybe it is cause building destruction is no longer instant and it just takes them too long to break more than one.
I think there is some buggy thing with building destroyers, where they target something that is they are already adjacent to, they will not start the demolition process. Evil biome embark, three wandering ogres in the first month or two, one leg-broken dwarf was left outside outside, the other dwarfs died inside, then the ogres flipped some beds and got stuck. They were there until migrants arrived, at least a month or two. Occasionally trolls would do the same thing. I don't know about were's and doors because I wall them in without doors.
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« Reply #1132 on: May 08, 2017, 04:19:59 pm »

This is probably known already and won't be useful to anyone, but I discovered that if someone is currently a baron/count/duke, they can't become a king/queen. I tested this using DFHack. I made my fort's duke the king through a command, then reitred that fort and started a new one. Checked legends, and there was a new, completely different king and  there was no mention of my duke ever becoming one.

On my second try, I transfered the duke position to a different dwarf, and made the same guy as before into a king. Retired, started new fort, checked the civilization screen as well as legends and he was king now.
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« Reply #1133 on: May 11, 2017, 03:34:12 am »

Best use I've found for lead is for floor bars.  It's too heavy and low-value to be practical for anything else.

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« Reply #1134 on: May 11, 2017, 04:35:25 am »

Best use I've found for lead is for floor bars.  It's too heavy and low-value to be practical for anything else.

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Oh no, such precious warminecart material and shotgun ammo getting wasted on toys and trade items...
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Re: Trivial findings
« Reply #1135 on: May 11, 2017, 04:39:09 am »

Best use I've found for lead is for floor bars.  It's too heavy and low-value to be practical for anything else.

Toys for the elven children, and mugs for the elven nobles

Or lead figurines, sceptres and other handheld trinkets for improvised civilian weapon use.

Lead flooring has proven very useful as a landing zone material in various Goblin Terminal Velocity Testing Facilities. As ordinary flooring it sounds a bit risky since just a random stumble-and-skip-across-the-floor would equal being hit several times with a very large cube of lead.
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« Reply #1136 on: May 14, 2017, 05:02:56 pm »

"Void" migrants can appear in married couples despite incompatible orientations. Currently I have a husband+wife couple who both exclusively like men. At least they have something in common?
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« Reply #1137 on: May 14, 2017, 06:17:36 pm »

Apparently, werecreatures can die of thirst.  Because I just had it happen.
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« Reply #1138 on: May 15, 2017, 09:55:00 pm »

Apparently, werecreatures can die of thirst.  Because I just had it happen.
Usually there's not enough time before transformation. What were the circumstances? Was it a hot embark?
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« Reply #1139 on: May 16, 2017, 03:16:25 am »

When looking for vampires, screen out population for unusual skin color (which usually means they come from a different civilization), but more especially for gray or white hairs. Vampires don't grow older, but like human their hair lose their coloration with time, which gives their real age away
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