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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2685 on: January 24, 2015, 12:51:07 pm »

OSCE observers possibly? :)
Their attire in that video would get them easily shot by anything Novorossiyan. They appear to belong to an especially suicidal kind of OSCE observers. :P
Maybe they are NATO advisors or something.
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2686 on: January 24, 2015, 01:02:16 pm »

What are English-speaking people in soldier's uniforms doing in Mariupol???

I'm not sure who spoke English in that video. Probably ivze is right on that one.
2 minute 33-36 seconds - you can hear a soldier sayion "out of my face, out of my face please" while shielding his face from the camera with hand.

I rewatched this particular moment a few times - yes, there is a man in military uniform speaking confident in English. But I guess there a lot of interesting people from all over the world in Ukraine right now.
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2687 on: January 24, 2015, 01:05:32 pm »

OSCE observers possibly? :)
Their attire in that video would get them easily shot by anything Novorossiyan. They appear to belong to an especially suicidal kind of OSCE observers. :P
Maybe they are NATO advisors or something.
Or mercenaries.

EDIT: There is indeed a piece of information going around on Russian social media that fake rebels are gathering in Mariupol, and that we should be ready for a false-flag operation.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2015, 01:09:34 pm by Knit tie »
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2688 on: January 24, 2015, 01:08:20 pm »

I guess this is a NATO adviser too, then. Or probably a volunteer, seeing as he's from Azov battalion judging by the emblem and the video origin.
(14 minute 30-50+ seconds, the person to the right appears to be speaking english clearly, the person holding the camera is speaking broken english to him)
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2689 on: January 24, 2015, 01:37:16 pm »

Col. Cassad's update on the battles. So far, the rebels are slowly advancing, but the AFU are showing great tenacity and bravery in defense.
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2690 on: January 24, 2015, 01:44:36 pm »

Col. Cassad's update on the battles. So far, the rebels are slowly advancing, but the AFU are showing great tenacity and bravery in defense.
It's to be expected, since they're a Slav nation (and more importantly, Slav culture), and all Slav nations/cultures have that common trait.
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2691 on: January 24, 2015, 01:45:31 pm »

Both Russian and Ukrainian sources state that an emergency session of the Ukrainian parliament is to be held on Monday the 26th of January. It's speculated that Rada will enact martial law in Ukraine.

The question is, how decisive the actions of the opposing parties will be? I think if things get really shitty, NATO can probably even launch a military intervention of their own in the near future instead of sending advisors and small arms, and after that, an open full-scale war between NATO and Russia with its allies can easily break out.
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2692 on: January 24, 2015, 01:48:21 pm »

Both Russian and Ukrainian sources state that an emergency session of the Ukrainian parliament is to be held on Monday the 26th of January. It's speculated that Rada will enact martial law in Ukraine.
They won't do it, since it'll cut off the IMF funding, and without IMF funding, Ukraine is completely and utterly screwed beyond belief.
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2693 on: January 24, 2015, 01:53:03 pm »

Col. Cassad's update on the battles. So far, the rebels are slowly advancing, but the AFU are showing great tenacity and bravery in defense.
It's to be expected, since they're a Slav nation (and more importantly, Slav culture), and all Slav nations/cultures have that common trait.
Ukrainians fought the Grand Army and stormed Berlin - no matter how harebrained their commanders are, the common soldiers are not going to yield easily. Already, there are reports of rebels taking heavy losses.
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2694 on: January 24, 2015, 01:57:38 pm »

Both Russian and Ukrainian sources state that an emergency session of the Ukrainian parliament is to be held on Monday the 26th of January. It's speculated that Rada will enact martial law in Ukraine.
They won't do it, since it'll cut off the IMF funding, and without IMF funding, Ukraine is completely and utterly screwed beyond belief.
Eh, the US will simply fund Ukraine through other means.
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2695 on: January 24, 2015, 02:37:33 pm »

I guess this is a NATO adviser too, then. Or probably a volunteer, seeing as he's from Azov battalion judging by the emblem and the video origin.
(14 minute 30-50+ seconds, the person to the right appears to be speaking english clearly, the person holding the camera is speaking broken english to him)

As a native English speaker, neither person sounds quite "right" to me, and even the better English speaker has a slight eastern "twang" to his speech. Why are they speaking in English?

Of course, it is a massive stretch to pin anything on the identities on the individuals in question based on the language. Anyone can speak it after all, just like how anyone can buy the insignia of the Russian marines :P

OSCE observers possibly? :)
They don't wear military uniform, from other videos with OSCE in them.

What are English-speaking people in soldier's uniforms doing in Mariupol???

I'm not sure who spoke English in that video. Probably ivze is right on that one.
2 minute 33-36 seconds - you can hear a soldier sayion "out of my face, out of my face please" while shielding his face from the camera with hand.

Now that accent is harder to place. Initially I thought it sounded almost Mancurian (Manchester, UK), but the more I listen, the more it sounds almost a vague  generic American, with a very slight eastern European twang. But, again, why in English?

As pretty much everyone suspects, both sides appear have people in amongst them that are probably not officially there. Its a good old proxy war like in the 80's! Ah, nostalgia!
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2696 on: January 24, 2015, 02:53:06 pm »

I love how Russia sends soldiers in and the topic is "why are there OSCE observers there" [possibly to go check for those chemical weapons and keep tabs on the terrorists]. If america ever invades and wants to annex a nation, I'll remember the professional doublespeak employed in this invasion.
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2697 on: January 24, 2015, 02:57:00 pm »

How many roubles is one US dollar?

1$ is around 50-60 roubles, it is fluctuating right now
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Has the rouble exchange rate stabilized? And is Russia/the Russian Central Bank still spending enormous amounts of money on maintaining a non-crazy rate of exchange?
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2698 on: January 24, 2015, 03:01:11 pm »

Some slightly more objective reporting on events at Mariupol. One rebel commander says "yes, we are responsible for the shelling of a civilian area", one says "no, it was the Ukrainians". Make of it what you will. The rebels seem to be gaining ground, but at great loss of men and materiel. No info offered on Ukrainian losses, though I expect them to be signifigant, considering the nature of the combat.
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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2699 on: January 24, 2015, 03:05:17 pm »

I love how Russia sends soldiers in and the topic is "why are there OSCE observers there" [possibly to go check for those chemical weapons and keep tabs on the terrorists]. If america ever invades and wants to annex a nation, I'll remember the professional doublespeak employed in this invasion.
OSCE observers wearing military uniform, without any special emblems signalizing that they're from OSCE?

Protip: if you wanted to troll, you should be less obvious.
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