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Author Topic: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России  (Read 145219 times)

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Re: Russia Watch Thread/Ветка о России
« Reply #2655 on: January 24, 2015, 09:33:32 am »

So far it seems that every nation with nukes invades intervents whatever part of the world they feel like backing it with whatever reason they have imagination to create or emphasize.
Yup.

Not EVERY nation with nukes, Britian doesn't, France doesn't (intervening in their former colony doesn't count), India doesn't, Pakistan doesn't. Although India and Pakistan would rather invade each other.

Ukraine shelled Mariupol? That Russian scum dare to say that? I wish a nuke on Moscow. Russian or otherwise. It is not important

It is completely plausible because friendly fire incidents are a thing.
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« Reply #2656 on: January 24, 2015, 09:38:07 am »

So far it seems that every nation with nukes invades intervents whatever part of the world they feel like backing it with whatever reason they have imagination to create or emphasize.
Yup.

Not EVERY nation with nukes, Britian doesn't, France doesn't (intervening in their former colony doesn't count), India doesn't, Pakistan doesn't. Although India and Pakistan would rather invade each other.

You're probably right about Pakistan and India. I counted Britain and France as NATO members, maybe I was wrong with that one.
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« Reply #2657 on: January 24, 2015, 09:44:17 am »

The most surprising fact the the NAF's offensive is that they're attacking at multiple directions at once - and apparently pushing everywhere they attack, with various degrees of success.
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« Reply #2658 on: January 24, 2015, 09:51:20 am »

France doesn't (intervening in their former colony doesn't count),
By that logic, Russia intervening into their former colony federal district of Ukraine also doesn't count.
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« Reply #2659 on: January 24, 2015, 09:53:56 am »

Not EVERY nation with nukes, Britain doesn't, France doesn't (intervening in their former colony doesn't count), India doesn't, Pakistan doesn't. Although India and Pakistan would rather invade each other.

Iraq? Afghanistan?
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« Reply #2660 on: January 24, 2015, 09:54:13 am »

There was UN mandate (approved by Russia as well) for Libya, though. I think we've discussed it here before.
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« Reply #2661 on: January 24, 2015, 09:56:34 am »

There was UN mandate (approved by Russia as well) for Libya, though. I think we've discussed it here before.

Our foreign affairs minister claimed that Russia abstained from signing that, and didn't put veto on it. But my memory might fail me, as well as my news sources.
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« Reply #2662 on: January 24, 2015, 09:58:11 am »

Uhh so many things happened.

Generally as people already said, how it looks this is a big offensive, but this time from pro russians.

Different footage from shelled Mariupol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=DuGnhPxqLe4&x-yt-cl=84503534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84503534&v=trwMYeA92X0&x-yt-ts=1421914688#t=49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etkAz_mR3NI&x-yt-cl=84503534&x-yt-ts=1421914688#t=48

Pro russian factory for repair in donetsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84503534&v=bXUAQre2dIk&x-yt-ts=1421914688

Pictures of destroyed pro russian convoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4sHNwPESB4
« Last Edit: January 24, 2015, 10:13:00 am by miljan »
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« Reply #2663 on: January 24, 2015, 09:59:53 am »

There was UN mandate (approved by Russia as well) for Libya, though. I think we've discussed it here before.

Our foreign affairs minister claimed that Russia abstained from signing that, and didn't put veto on it. But my memory might fail me, as well as my news sources.

Considering how Russia has used its veto right more often than any other nation and could have used it there too, abstaining/not vetoing/accepting are more or less the same thing.
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« Reply #2664 on: January 24, 2015, 10:01:45 am »

Not EVERY nation with nukes, Britain doesn't, France doesn't (intervening in their former colony doesn't count), India doesn't, Pakistan doesn't. Although India and Pakistan would rather invade each other.

Iraq? Afghanistan?

We dragged them into there though and probably not entirely willingly. I thought the statement was looking at the countries individually rather than as part of a coalition or under NATO, ie. the US and Iraq and Afghanistan, or Russia and Ukraine.

Uhh so many things happened.

Generally as people already said, how it looks this is a big offensive, but this time from pro russians.

Different footage from shelled Mariupol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=DuGnhPxqLe4&x-yt-cl=84503534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84503534&v=trwMYeA92X0&x-yt-ts=1421914688#t=49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etkAz_mR3NI&x-yt-cl=84503534&x-yt-ts=1421914688#t=48

Pro russian factory for repair in donetsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84503534&v=bXUAQre2dIk&x-yt-ts=1421914688

Pictures of destroyed pro russian colon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4sHNwPESB4


I half expected that last one to be someones destroyed intestines rather than a convoy, which is what I suspect you meant.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2015, 10:04:22 am by smjjames »
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« Reply #2665 on: January 24, 2015, 10:03:24 am »

doublepost, nvm
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« Reply #2666 on: January 24, 2015, 10:11:19 am »

Pictures of destroyed pro russian colon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4sHNwPESB4
I half-expected that link to provide horrible pictures of Ukrainian homosexuals violently avenging their oppression by Putin on a captured rebel. :P
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« Reply #2667 on: January 24, 2015, 10:13:43 am »

There was UN mandate (approved by Russia as well) for Libya, though. I think we've discussed it here before.

Our foreign affairs minister claimed that Russia abstained from signing that, and didn't put veto on it. But my memory might fail me, as well as my news sources.

Considering how Russia has used its veto right more often than any other nation and could have used it there too, abstaining/not vetoing/accepting are more or less the same thing.
Information: at the time of that, the president of Russia was Medvedev, who's noted for his liberal views, has an education of a lawyer, and in general is very West-leaning individual. Many people in Russia has not agreed with his decision, especially after the "no-fly" zone started to include ground operations.
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« Reply #2668 on: January 24, 2015, 10:14:55 am »

We dragged them into there though and probably not entirely willingly. I thought the statement was looking at the countries individually rather than as part of a coalition or under NATO, ie. the US and Iraq and Afghanistan, or Russia and Ukraine.

No. Tony Blair was high on some kind of jesus juice, presumably secreted from an overactive messiah-complex gland. He, and the rest of New Labour, were just as pro-war as the Americans and enthusiastically established us as the USA's Number Two in the war on terror.

The British public were another story, but the British government was a very willing participant in the invasions. We didn't invade as part of NATO in the initial instance, did we? In Iraq, I mean. It was something else wasn't it?
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