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Author Topic: Isn't HFS getting less, and less fun?  (Read 7701 times)

tonnot98

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Re: Isn't HFS getting less, and less fun?
« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2014, 09:37:05 pm »

I think that there should still be a normal, bland hell.

But dotting random areas of the world, there's small adamantine pockets around the magma layer, and those contain all of the horrors that we've come to know and love in the 40d era! Except with procedurally generated demons, of course.

Rescuing chained up skinless giant tigers, anyone?
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Re: Isn't HFS getting less, and less fun?
« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2014, 11:35:31 pm »

They are in a separate world...
This might be much more relevant than any of us realize as to why Hell as it stands -- a big cave with tough creatures hiding in it -- has been watered/dumbed down for now rather than built up. Isn't transplanar fortress colonization supposed to be a thing in DF21XX, in which case hell dimensions could eventually be entire dark worlds populated by exotic races and civilizations of monsters of varying degrees of hostility, abomination and horror? (Possibly some controlled by the machinations of once-minor lawyer devils with plans for the apocalypse?)
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Re: Isn't HFS getting less, and less fun?
« Reply #62 on: November 22, 2014, 08:47:07 am »

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Oh dear, I'll be transplanar by that time myself... ;P
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Re: Isn't HFS getting less, and less fun?
« Reply #63 on: November 23, 2014, 02:23:29 pm »

after the initial breach it seems very boring yeah, even the caverns have more content, what i would do is the following:

-make hell a second world map: from what i gather of fortress mode, caverns and hell are generated as single instances in each embark,i dont know how that works in worldgen but it would be cool if all the underground regions were forming different world layers i mean. there would be a whole map of the underground (caverns) and a whole map for hell itself. the magma sea too.

-make hell as complex as the overworld: the caverns are a world by itself, althought its composed of 3 different types. hell could be as complex and be compossed of different biomes, it could even mirror the overworld. slade would be the along the lowest Zlvls before reaching a second molten layer with no more rock to breach.

-minerals and stuff found only down there. maybe some kind of adamantine-like material for other weapons (adamantine seems good for edged, but how about blunt weapons?)

-evil fauna and flora which thrives in the demonic grounds, some of them lava dependant maybe. breeding and growing them should be a challenge but worth in value

-demon fortresses dotting the landscape, with similar features to the original ones, acting as sites and ruins for the adventurers and the fortress that get to breach into it.

-demons could have different castes as people point, pretty much like angelic beings. with guardians, bestial and FB/titan type ones.

-after breaching hell the player is welcomed by a scouting group, and not by a huge zerg rush, the idea is that the player will have it hard to deal with the welcoming party. but in the case of getting victorious it would later be challenged in time by goblin-scale sieges from the demon fortress.
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Re: Isn't HFS getting less, and less fun?
« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2014, 10:30:00 pm »

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Re: Isn't HFS getting less, and less fun?
« Reply #65 on: November 29, 2014, 10:48:19 pm »

To me, the most annoying part is the demons love to swim in magma sea.
The adamantine shafts they come from are usually not straight up/down so they can always find a way into the magma.
As soon as I wall off my fort, they turn back and swim in magma...tons of them...this slows thing down because they also fight those fire imps.
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Re: Isn't HFS getting less, and less fun?
« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2014, 12:26:03 am »

Hey, at least they rid you of an annoyance before decimating you, right?
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