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SlyStalker

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Become One... With the Hive!
« on: November 24, 2014, 12:59:01 am »

Hello Bay12,
I'm trying to make this race of Tyranid/Zerg-esque creatures that it composed of basically a metric fuckton of little guys which are weak but numerous, a couple flying ones and a few large monsters. I have a few questions:
1. How do I make them not attack each other?
2. Is there a way to put a kind of shell of chitinous layer on the creatures' back or something?
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Re: Become One... With the Hive!
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2014, 01:06:17 am »

1. No [CRAZED]
2. Tissue layer stuff, which is too complex to go into in a forum post and you can basically find out about on the wiki

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Re: Become One... With the Hive!
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2014, 06:09:23 am »

They will easily get depressed though, considering seeing each other die gives sad thoughts that cant be modded.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2014, 06:18:26 am »

  You can make all these creature in one using castes. In the "creature token" page of the Wiki, you can see that the tokens are categorized by the type "caste" or "creature". With this you can create a creature raw, that includes as many castes as you want, with different bodies and characteristics, so in fact you can have an entity with several different creatures. Using [POP_RATIO:x] in the castes, you can make ones more common (POP_RATIO:1), and others more rare (POP_RATIO:100).
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Re: Become One... With the Hive!
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2014, 06:39:50 am »

They will easily get depressed though, considering seeing each other die gives sad thoughts that cant be modded.
Wasn't there a tag which disabled the emotion system?
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Re: Become One... With the Hive!
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2014, 07:04:00 am »

They will easily get depressed though, considering seeing each other die gives sad thoughts that cant be modded.
They will be so consumed by the will of the Hive that they will not stop until all are assimilated... I'm sure there's a tag somewhere, though.
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Re: Become One... With the Hive!
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2014, 10:21:16 am »

They will easily get depressed though, considering seeing each other die gives sad thoughts that cant be modded.
They will be so consumed by the will of the Hive that they will not stop until all are assimilated... I'm sure there's a tag somewhere, though.

Well that doesnt really solve the problem. It just removes the whole emotion system as a whole, which is a problem of itself imo.
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Re: Become One... With the Hive!
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2014, 11:23:18 am »

They will easily get depressed though, considering seeing each other die gives sad thoughts that cant be modded.
They will be so consumed by the will of the Hive that they will not stop until all are assimilated... I'm sure there's a tag somewhere, though.

Well that doesnt really solve the problem. It just removes the whole emotion system as a whole, which is a problem of itself imo.

NO_EMOTION would make sense for expendable drones, but unless all your units are that way, those who have emotion will break upon the mindless ones death.

I'd say max discipline, minimum anger, some research until the personnality facets will help you make more solid character.

Keep in mind that many units will kill your FPS.

For 2 you should look into body and tissue definition, turtles have shells so that should be an example. For extra fun, add NO_BONES afterwards to make them behave like more insects against wounds.
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Re: Become One... With the Hive!
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2014, 12:37:15 pm »

For 2 you should look into body and tissue definition, turtles have shells so that should be an example. For extra fun, add NO_BONES afterwards to make them behave like more insects against wounds.
Just look at insects in the vanilla raws.  Tucked inside you'll see [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:EXOSKELETON_TISSUE_LAYERS:CHITIN:FAT:MUSCLE] which defines the tissue layers for all standard bodyparts (internal organs are under all of the layers).  If you want bodyparts that don't exist in the raws, you'll need to make your own BODY and BODY_DETAIL_PLAN templates.
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Re: Become One... With the Hive!
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2014, 10:25:13 am »

If you want bodyparts that don't exist in the raws, you'll need to make your own BODY and BODY_DETAIL_PLAN templates.

Making them is easy I think. Just look at the ones already there and read the tokens.
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Re: Become One... With the Hive!
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2014, 08:41:54 pm »

... you can make ones more common (POP_RATIO:1), and others more rare (POP_RATIO:100).
the other way around:
If you have those POP_RATIO's you get 1 in a 101 getting cast with POP_RATIO:1 and the other 100 out of 101 will be from the cast with POP_RATIO:101
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