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[Dorsidwarf]

Speaking of the ship, let's talk about ships.

The Rorqual is a capital-class ship, for masterminding lawless cargo operations in nullsec mining, in EVE, which has gobsmackingly unrealistically huge ship sizes. 14 million cubic metres? This is a mid-budget scouting mission which is widely considered to be suicide, not an invasion fleet!

For reference, that's a spaceship with a mass comparable to the amount of matter used by the sun each second. (TIL)

I think a ship the size of a Nimitz aircraft carrier or two is pretty reasonable, especially for a small crew like ours.



While internetting, I discovered that this is comparable volume to:

5600 Olympic swimming pools

~100,000,000 midgets

~5000 nuclear submarines

9.7x10^10 Ponies of strong liquor

More than 200 million cubic badgers. Only cubic ones. Good luck trying to cube them all.

Between 40 and 70 Hindenburgs, according to various argumentors.

17.5 million cubic tonnes. That is not a typo.

Well over 170 Royal Albert Halls.

[~Neri]

That's a lot of midgets.

[Dorsidwarf]

Actually, it's a helll of a lot more midgets, but I lost interest along the way and moved on to badgers.

[Insanegame27]

I think there should be a different AI for each sector of the ship. When I say AI i mean RVB style AI.

Could i be the AI that runs the weapons systems?
Code name: ColdCore

[blazing glory]

I think there should be a different AI for each sector of the ship. When I say AI i mean RVB style AI.

Could i be the AI that runs the weapons systems?
Code name: ColdCore

Not without butting heads with Kevak about how many AI's are allowed compared to ship size.

[WillowLuman]

Alright, from what I understand, here's some potential jobs of everyone who submitted sheets.

Indigo Diadem (Kj1225), in charge of security and armory, expert on studying new cultures
Averus_Salamoth (Pencil_Art) Biologist, expert chemist
Cathelyn (Arcvasti) Biological surveyer, expert genetic engineer/analyst
S4 (Tiruin) Ship's doctor, expert in both xenobiology (studying unknown life forms) and medicine (in a wide variety of species)
Jiggle (LuckyKobold), engineer and (when need be) mechanic
Sound-Glorious-And-Bring-New-Life-Unto-Creation (Dorisdwarf) diplomat, communicator, negotiator

Everyone else either hasn't submitted a sheet yet, or didn't include any skills (or just athletic/combat skills only). Unless I missed someone.

So, Y'ALL NEED MORE SKILLS.

[~Neri]

I think there should be a different AI for each sector of the ship. When I say AI i mean RVB style AI.

Could i be the AI that runs the weapons systems?
Code name: ColdCore

I already plan on being the AI, although the reason I'm pushing for an Alpha Grade AI is because Alphas can make lower grade AI's. Which would make streamlining most functions of the ship easier if the main AI didn't need to micromanage stuff. (I actually planned on a Delta AI per weapon.) If you want, we could figure out the specifics for you. If you want to specifically be in charge of weapons, a Beta Grade Enforcer AI would work for managing that. (Enforcer AI are AI that can handle the millisecond firing windows.)

We really do need a bigger computerbank then currently planned though if we really want to do anything useful with drones.

[kj1225]

Are you going to explain what any of that actually means for people who like soft-scifi?

[blazing glory]

You should give us lesser minded people who haven't read all the books you have a list of AIs and their capabilities.

EDIT:Is ninja'd.

[~Neri]

A TL;DR version of the AI classification lore since I don't feel like typing the actual AI Collective lore until we decide on a ship is:

Alphas are several times smarter then a human. As in several Singularity smarter, too smart for a human (or lesser AI) to comprehend.

Betas are also several times smarter then a human, although they tend to be somewhat lower then a Alpha but considerably more specialized.

Cetas are highly specialized and one or two times smarter then a human.

Deltas are about human intelligence, however they are absurdly specialized towards whatever they are interested in/programmed to be interested in.

Everything lower is decreasing in intelligence, most drones are Epsilon Grade, excluding Drone Queens, who are always at least a Beta.

[WillowLuman]

We really do need a bigger computerbank then currently planned though if we really want to do anything useful with drones.

And I state again, "bigger" etc. are relative terms. I don't think people have stated any actual numbers for the size of computer banks or any other facilities. Need a ballpark please.

Also, bear in mind smaller and more efficient transistors than our IRL ones (and thus far more compact computers) or even quantum computers (yet more compact). You don't need a vast computer bank to support sentience (not to mention that would entirely rule out androids in this setting), the main thing the extra memory would be for is analyzing data. Which, while the feedback from all the automated systems would produce a lot of it, a ship doesn't need as large of a brain-to-body ratio as, say, a terrestrial organism.

[~Neri]

A few hundred times the computational power of earth as a whole as of right now is the low range ballpark.

[WillowLuman]

Why? It's not like every drone is going to be measuring particle collisions.

[Tiruin]

Alright, from what I understand, here's some potential jobs of everyone who submitted sheets.

Indigo Diadem (Kj1225), in charge of security and armory, expert on studying new cultures
Averus_Salamoth (Pencil_Art) Biologist, expert chemist
Cathelyn (Arcvasti) Biological surveyer, expert genetic engineer/analyst
S4 (Tiruin) Ship's doctor, expert in both xenobiology (studying unknown life forms) and medicine (in a wide variety of species)
Jiggle (LuckyKobold), engineer and (when need be) mechanic
Sound-Glorious-And-Bring-New-Life-Unto-Creation (Dorisdwarf) diplomat, communicator, negotiator

Everyone else either hasn't submitted a sheet yet, or didn't include any skills (or just athletic/combat skills only). Unless I missed someone.

So, Y'ALL NEED MORE SKILLS.

Err, Hugo?
People aren't limited by how skilled they are--in reality, too. While society may run on the case of 'required knowledge', that is not how the person is...constructed, so to say. One may be skilled in retail, yet be able to diffuse a situation where an armed and crazed robber barges into the store because of their knowledge and experience in communication (though unlisted).

Make leeway for a trial by fire, is what I'm saying. Given the discussions now--we may be dangerously verging on analysis paralysis, wherein one goes too much into the details that the fleshed out version is...akin to the concept of 'best on paper'.

[~Neri]

Why? It's not like every drone is going to be measuring particle collisions.

I'm talking about onboard computerbanks for storing the primary AI. Not a drone AI. ((Which still needs a fuckton op processing power to run even a animal intelligence AI.))

Also as a note. Currently the total earth computational power isn't even a seventhousandth of a human's mental capacity.