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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 907311 times)

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19650 on: June 15, 2016, 01:44:49 pm »

I think you only get mail basically saying the government can draft you when shit hits the fan.
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« Reply #19651 on: June 15, 2016, 01:45:10 pm »

It's been a while (over a decade) but don't you just have to check a checkbox or some shit to sign up for the draft?

You can sign up for the draft... but that is volunteering

Otherwise you are ALWAYS in the Draft and there are few ways out of it.

No, if you don't register, you're in violation of the law, and iirc they take that very seriously.

(You don't have to worry about the change of address thing once you age out, though)
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19652 on: June 15, 2016, 01:47:21 pm »

That was arguably a concern in ancient times, it just isn't anymore.  Even if we assume it's important to continue growing more people exponentially, which I don't agree with at all, saving the womens for repopulation only works with polygamy.  Which we don't really have.
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But seriously, it's a non-issue...  WW2 basically increased our net pop growth rate after the baby boom:
http://www.fairus.org/images/content/US_Population.jpg
Then look at France.  So many French citizens died in the world wars that it had negative growth temporarily...  But afterwards its growth rate skyrocketed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France#/media/File:Population2Centuries.jpg
Most of those deaths in WW2 were civilians, men and women.  Yet the population recovered and then exceeded its original growth.  Because it's not about the number of women, it's the number and size of families.
Of course, selective service (draft) doesn't have to mean front line service.  There are lots of ways to serve the country, like disaster relief efforts.  Women make fine police officers, firefighters, and EMTs.  Lifting wounded people is more about triage and technique than strength...
Where's the data by gender for the casualties of France, whilst for the USA those were American men going abroad to die (wikipedia says 16 American women soldiers died in WWII for all that's worth)
You don't need marriage and family units to cause population explosions, infidelity and poverty do a hell of a better job lol

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Might be worth looking into Soviets, because they had total total war and total casualties, and they recorded this stuff including gender
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19653 on: June 15, 2016, 01:49:22 pm »

This is the clusterfuck of opinions I expected from the subject.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19654 on: June 15, 2016, 01:52:03 pm »

In all fairness it is in the best interest for gun companies to ALWAYS perpetuate that there is a problem with gun violence and weapon violence in the country.

Why would people buy guns in a time of peace outside a few hobbyists and crazies?
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19655 on: June 15, 2016, 01:53:56 pm »

I mean, to register with the SSS, it can be done online. You just have to notify them of any change of address. Fairly trivial stuff.
... y'know, now that I think about it has been a long while since I registered. They didn't really have as thorough internet saturation back then, and the automation and whatnot was even more shit. Things are probably a bit easier nowadays.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19656 on: June 15, 2016, 02:11:52 pm »

Why would people buy guns in a time of peace outside a few hobbyists and crazies?

I think you underestimate the US gun hobby scene
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« Reply #19657 on: June 15, 2016, 02:14:31 pm »

Why would people buy guns in a time of peace outside a few hobbyists and crazies?

I think you underestimate the US gun hobby scene

So they can hide in a forest for days every year and never see a deer, of course.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19658 on: June 15, 2016, 02:17:52 pm »

Here in Michigan (USA) there are so many deer that most patches of woods have all branches and brush below shoulder level stripped by the middle of winter. Some friends from out of state visited and wanted to know why we trim all our forests... Well, you see we have this minor deer problem...
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19659 on: June 15, 2016, 02:21:36 pm »

Yeah, I don't know where you're from, but people around here (a three deer county in Ohio) usually manage to get as many as they're permitted.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19660 on: June 15, 2016, 02:23:33 pm »

The northeast.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19661 on: June 15, 2016, 02:53:36 pm »

The northeast.
Murrican God given right to sit in the forest for days without seeing a deer.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19662 on: June 15, 2016, 03:28:13 pm »

It's no joke that we need deer hunting in the US. Deer were naturally kept in check by wolves, whom we almost wiped out. Even if a concerted effort were made to restore the wolf population (and that's heavily unpopular, farmers have literally attacked wolf restoration attempts, also muh baby gonna get eaten) it would still be years before they and deer could come into balance.

Hence, it falls to us, the next best killing machines.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19663 on: June 15, 2016, 03:40:01 pm »

It's no joke that we need deer hunting in the US. Deer were naturally kept in check by wolves, whom we almost wiped out. Even if a concerted effort were made to restore the wolf population (and that's heavily unpopular, farmers have literally attacked wolf restoration attempts, also muh baby gonna get eaten) it would still be years before they and deer could come into balance.

Hence, it falls to us, the next best killing machines.

Like elsewhere in the world they also likely have a lot more to eat compared to when there were wolves. I believe the increase in young forest area and farming is the main factor. Heres something I found after a quick search:
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No timeline, but it could look similar to what we have: http://www.luonnontila.fi/fi/elinymparistot/metsat/me8-metsien-ikarakenne South at the left, North at the right. Amount of young forests with a lot to eat for deer species has doubled since decade ago(the total forest area very likely has remained constant within a percent or two).
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19664 on: June 15, 2016, 03:46:05 pm »

Thanks guys. I now have this image of a crazed redneck driving out to the woods thousands of miles away in the American north east in order to mow down literally thousands of deer with some massive assault rifle, while screaming "ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS!"...
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