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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 817902 times)

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« Reply #705 on: March 06, 2015, 02:37:39 pm »

So you're in the "allies don't actually care about their own constituents, they just want dat sweet US monies" camp I take it?
Why do you think Pashtun tribesmen harboring Taliban are 'constituents' to Pakistan's junta?   Pakistan is using the US to kill malcontents that it wants dead anyway.  We don't need to bribe regressive military juntas to kill Islamic supremacists.  The US doesn't need to do anything to make regressive cultists and extant rulers want to kill each other.
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« Reply #706 on: March 06, 2015, 02:50:50 pm »

So you're in the "allies don't actually care about their own constituents, they just want dat sweet US monies" camp I take it?
Why do you think Pashtun tribesmen harboring Taliban are 'constituents' to Pakistan's junta?   Pakistan is using the US to kill malcontents that it wants dead anyway.  We don't need to bribe regressive military juntas to kill Islamic supremacists.  The US doesn't need to do anything to make regressive cultists and extant rulers want to kill each other.

If the formula were that simple, we wouldn't be there.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #707 on: March 06, 2015, 03:28:25 pm »

So you're in the "allies don't actually care about their own constituents, they just want dat sweet US monies" camp I take it?
Why do you think Pashtun tribesmen harboring Taliban are 'constituents' to Pakistan's junta?   Pakistan is using the US to kill malcontents that it wants dead anyway.  We don't need to bribe regressive military juntas to kill Islamic supremacists.  The US doesn't need to do anything to make regressive cultists and extant rulers want to kill each other.
I think "constituents" in this regard referred more to the collateral damage rather than the targets. And saying that *all* the Pashtun in the NWFP are targets because *some* of them are aligned with the Taliban is a bit overzealous and simplistic.

Moveover some of the Taliban *are* constituents of elements of the Pakistani government, specifically the ISI. Or more specifically parts of the ISI. Nobody in that part of the world is completely an enemy or an ally. In many ways, Central Asia is one of the most pragmatic places on Earth. The downside is that pragmatism tends to manifest as "stabbing people in the back when opportune and switching sides to whoever has the upper hand".
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« Reply #708 on: March 06, 2015, 07:41:51 pm »

Alaska may, amazingly, have produced a politician more moronic than Sarah Palin.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #709 on: March 06, 2015, 07:55:32 pm »

...Well, then.
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« Reply #710 on: March 06, 2015, 08:15:50 pm »

... poorly chose placement, perhaps, but that looks like it was actually a pretty decent bit of hyperbole. I think Loud Whispers might have liked it -- it's specifically in reference to the (perceived, from Young's perspective) danger of cultivating a wolf population and in response to curtailing (or attempting to, anyway) Alaskan efforts to keep their wolf population suppressed.
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« Reply #711 on: March 06, 2015, 08:44:01 pm »

Alaska may, amazingly, have produced a politician more moronic than Sarah Palin.

Hard to tell if he's being serious or is sarcastic. In context it seems pretty sarcastic, and the article does say that he has 'a salty tougne'.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #712 on: March 06, 2015, 08:48:12 pm »

I hope it's sarcastic. Cause if that's serious it's the dumbest thing I've seen all week. Forget the idea that wolves would go traipsing into human population centers, let's consider for a moment the likely outcome of an encounter between wolves and homeless people. You know what I see happening? Those homeless people are having wolf for supper, that's what.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #713 on: March 06, 2015, 08:55:18 pm »

Well I'd like to see your plan to solve homelessness.
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« Reply #714 on: March 06, 2015, 08:58:53 pm »

Not to mention that wolves wouldn't know the difference between homeless and not-homeless.

Besides, even if it does get homeless off the street, it completely ignores the cause behind the homelessness problrm.
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« Reply #715 on: March 06, 2015, 09:03:21 pm »

Well I'd like to see your plan to solve homelessness.
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EDIT: To be clear, we give the homeless bear-taming lessons and free bears. Soon, they will have the strength to seize homes for themselves.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #716 on: March 06, 2015, 09:26:08 pm »

Not to mention picnic baskets!

Besides, even if it does get homeless off the street, it completely ignores the cause behind the homelessness problrm.

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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #717 on: March 06, 2015, 09:30:22 pm »

Not to mention that wolves wouldn't know the difference between homeless and not-homeless.

Besides, even if it does get homeless off the street, it completely ignores the cause behind the homelessness problrm.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #718 on: March 06, 2015, 09:31:09 pm »

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« Reply #719 on: March 06, 2015, 09:33:45 pm »

In this metaphor homelessness equals sex? Misko?
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