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What's your opinion on free will?

I am religious and believe in free will
- 69 (28.9%)
I am religious and do not believe in free will
- 9 (3.8%)
I am not religious and believe in free will
- 105 (43.9%)
I am not religious and do not believe in free will
- 56 (23.4%)

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Author Topic: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion  (Read 428001 times)

Orange Wizard

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #780 on: February 08, 2015, 10:54:20 pm »

There's a little bit of Biblical precedent for the father-head-of-household thingy. Most churches these days do away with it entirely. My church still holds to it, but it usually just materialises as the father leading the family in prayer before meals and suchlike.
Women also aren't allowed to become elders or deacons in the church, which may or may not be misogyny, depending on your definition of "hating women".

We had a sermon on the topic a little while back. The minister basically described "head of the household" as "responsible for the wellbeing of his family".

E: Actually, this line of discussion is teetering on the edge of feminism. Let's wrap it up sharpish.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #781 on: February 08, 2015, 11:06:46 pm »

So how do other Christians view a family that has a Christian mom, and children but an undecided or atheistic father?

That's basically my family. Not really sure why anyone'd have a problem with it and my family is generally pretty chill about religious differences, if that's what you mean.

Ok
Let me clarify
I meant toward Christians and more on the, the father is the head of the household and supposed to lead the family especially religiously.
So what of a father that is a non believer in an entirely Christian family (that being kids and spouse)?

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #782 on: February 08, 2015, 11:21:04 pm »

Sorry, I didn't mean to bring up a touchy subject.
I was just curious since it was something preached quite a bit at my church.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #783 on: February 08, 2015, 11:26:30 pm »

*silent mouth covered laugh

Im a touchy subject
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #784 on: February 09, 2015, 09:30:06 am »

You were brought up by Cryx?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #785 on: February 09, 2015, 09:48:56 am »

Oh shit that was to good.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #786 on: February 09, 2015, 05:49:55 pm »

...?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #787 on: February 09, 2015, 06:01:30 pm »

...?

Good afternoon Orange.
Did you want to discuss religions?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #788 on: February 09, 2015, 06:11:53 pm »

Good afternoon. I'm good, thanks.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #789 on: February 09, 2015, 06:25:56 pm »

Ok
Let me clearify
I meant toward Christians and more on the, the father is the head of the houshold and supposed to lead the family especialy religiously.
So what of a father that is a non believer in an entirly Christian family (that being kids and spouse)?
Funny how you say that. Around the Caribbean and Latino cultures the mother is generally the head of the family. Though generally in my experience of the average christian where I live would lead to them not caring about the non-religious head of the family. That leads to many people that say they believe in their christian god and they go to church, despite them not actually following the teachings of Christianity. This is more based on experience then anything, but I can say that very religious people still out-weigh other groups around here. 
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #790 on: February 11, 2015, 10:07:53 pm »

So how do other Christians view a family that has a Christian mom, and children but an undecided or atheistic father?

About the same as any other family.  It's better for the family to be sealed eternally, and for the father to be able to have the Priesthood, but if he's not then he's not and it's up to him & his wife.  We'll keep inviting the husband to church because we want everyone to be the happiest possible unless he asks us to stop.

If you mean theologically what happens to the leadership position, familial leadership should be shared equally between spouses anyway. 

The big theological difference is that the family relationships may not continue past this life, and that the father can't give his family blessings. That's why all members have home teachers, to make sure they have someone to call and ask for blessings. Women also get visiting teachers (women), who kind of act as external family members and general backup for the women in the family.  The whole ward is also supposed to act as external family for each other, but HT/VT are specifically assigned to each family to make sure no one slips through the cracks. 
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #791 on: February 12, 2015, 11:49:19 am »

What denomination is that?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #792 on: February 12, 2015, 12:51:40 pm »

Ghills is LDS, IIRC.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #793 on: February 12, 2015, 02:30:23 pm »

I think it is totally possible to have a cohesive and satisfying spiritual experience in the world we live in (factually a materialistic one without a deity or afterlife). That such concepts as self transcendence, oneness with the universe, and universal love have been co opted by frankly quite silly superstitions and power structures is one of the most depressing facts of human history.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #794 on: February 12, 2015, 02:35:33 pm »

Indeed. They are definitely of benefit to many people. However, they're so subjective that at the very least there must be multiple gods.
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