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What's your opinion on free will?

I am religious and believe in free will
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I am religious and do not believe in free will
- 10 (3.9%)
I am not religious and believe in free will
- 113 (44.5%)
I am not religious and do not believe in free will
- 61 (24%)

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Orange Wizard

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5040 on: February 06, 2016, 03:10:41 am »

I think a better way of phrasing it would be "we think conservation of energy laws need revision but we don't understand enough about it yet"
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5041 on: February 06, 2016, 04:12:39 am »

Pretty much, we know there is more to it, but we don't know what more to it there is yet

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5042 on: February 06, 2016, 04:30:11 pm »

my only beef with discussions of singularity is when people conflate it with transhumanism in general, or AI researchers who are working on general AI

i'm not the latter but i am the former

and i don't truck with no "just be patient and Machine Jesus will save us all" tripe, gotta work for your paradise son
Frankly, I don't trust others in regards to this sort of technology to not fuck it up and get us all killed. I have... well, no hope in the other researchers, though this could be (and probably is) just my ego talking.

Musk and Yudkowsky's work both have the exact same stated goal. I haven't seen Musk talk much, but I read Yudkowsky's book, so I've got an idea of his ego, and yeah, I can see it being that. I'm reminded of that time he said the entire readership of his fanfiction, which seems to be the most popular fanfiction on fanfiction.net, might be smarter than him. Might. Seriously, here's the exact post I'm referring to. When it comes to ego, you're in good company.
I pay attention to him, and I like some of the stuff he's written, but yeah. He's got an ego.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5043 on: February 13, 2016, 03:32:37 am »

What are gods results in mayers-briggs?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5044 on: February 13, 2016, 03:48:41 am »

What are gods results in mayers-briggs?

He's a textbook YHWH, I think.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5045 on: February 13, 2016, 03:49:08 am »

What are gods results in mayers-briggs?
I just did a test and gave snarkily-God-ish answers, got INTJ

My favourite questions were ones like "I often feel envious of other people" where I could rattle off Bible verses to support a Fully Agree answer :P

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What are gods results in mayers-briggs?
He's a textbook YHWH, I think.
10/10
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5046 on: February 13, 2016, 03:52:25 am »

What are gods results in mayers-briggs?
I just did a test and gave snarkily-God-ish answers, got INTJ

My favourite questions were ones like "I often feel envious of other people" where I could rattle off Bible verses to support a Fully Agree answer :P

it's one of the ten commandments, heck, I think I can recite it from memory

"I am the LORD your god; you will have no other gods before me. For my name is jealous, and I am a jealous God."

or something like that

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5047 on: February 13, 2016, 05:28:22 am »

not to mention the genocide in order to take others lands
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5048 on: February 14, 2016, 10:43:57 am »

not to mention the genocide in order to take others lands

Where was the verse in which it said that Israel was destined to take the Gentile's lands and their sons and daughters will be enslaved?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5049 on: February 14, 2016, 11:36:49 am »

It's not their land though since it was promised, also Tibet is Western China

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5050 on: February 14, 2016, 07:32:18 pm »

not to mention the genocide in order to take others lands

Where was the verse in which it said that Israel was destined to take the Gentile's lands and their sons and daughters will be enslaved?
I don't know about that, I think the verses were basically "Kill literally every man and woman and take their virgin daughters."

I might be mixing it up with the verses that say "Kill literally EVERYTHING, don't even take their goats."

... There might be an issue with someone when you can get his genocidal rampages confused with each other.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5051 on: February 14, 2016, 07:52:40 pm »

To be fair, it was mostly just one really long genocidal rampage that the Israelites never really carried out properly.

When God first directed the tribes to Canaan, he said "kill everyone there", and they mostly just mucked around. So God started directing them to genocide individual kingdoms, but the same thing happened. Basically, the Jews were bad at genocide.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5052 on: February 14, 2016, 07:54:05 pm »

YHWH knows whats up, he gives you virgins for conquest in this life not just the next

When God first directed the tribes to Canaan, he said "kill everyone there", and they mostly just mucked around. So God started directing them to genocide individual kingdoms, but the same thing happened. Basically, the Jews were bad at genocide.
Joshua blew the horns at the battle of Jericho and then their baneling bust rekt the wall off and they took all their minerals

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5053 on: February 14, 2016, 08:44:42 pm »

YHWH knows whats up, he gives you virgins for conquest in this life not just the next

When God first directed the tribes to Canaan, he said "kill everyone there", and they mostly just mucked around. So God started directing them to genocide individual kingdoms, but the same thing happened. Basically, the Jews were bad at genocide.
Joshua blew the horns at the battle of Jericho and then their baneling bust rekt the wall off and they took all their minerals
Before that though, God told them (while Moses was in charge) to go in and take it, but the people were scared, so they had to wander in the desert for 40 years, then go the long way around and kill everything in the way.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Everyone's a Coptic in Their Own Way
« Reply #5054 on: February 14, 2016, 11:01:50 pm »

YHWH knows whats up, he gives you virgins for conquest in this life not just the next

When God first directed the tribes to Canaan, he said "kill everyone there", and they mostly just mucked around. So God started directing them to genocide individual kingdoms, but the same thing happened. Basically, the Jews were bad at genocide.
Joshua blew the horns at the battle of Jericho and then their baneling bust rekt the wall off and they took all their minerals
Inidividual Jews are great at genocide. It's only in large groups that they become incompetent. It's like the Conservation of Ninjutsu rule, except with miracles and mass murder.
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