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What's your opinion on free will?

I am religious and believe in free will
- 70 (27.6%)
I am religious and do not believe in free will
- 10 (3.9%)
I am not religious and believe in free will
- 113 (44.5%)
I am not religious and do not believe in free will
- 61 (24%)

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Author Topic: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion  (Read 571877 times)

Egan_BW

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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6645 on: November 16, 2019, 06:25:44 am »

Assuming we have that much control over what they want.

Also, an AI designed to get a hit every time they accomplish a specific task is a lot more terrifying than one designed with humanlike desires.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6646 on: November 16, 2019, 06:30:32 am »

remember GlaDOS, the meme of yesteryear?

Yeah...SHE was supposed to be an AI that was designed to get a high every time she accomplished a scientific exploit... 
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6647 on: November 16, 2019, 06:50:23 am »

I haven’t played Portal, what was the exploit?
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6648 on: November 16, 2019, 06:51:45 am »

Hm. Go play Portal 1 and 2. :P
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6649 on: November 16, 2019, 06:53:52 am »

Quote from: Merriam Webster

exploit noun

ex·​ploit | \ ˈek-ˌsplȯit
, ik-ˈsplȯit
\
Definition of exploit

 (Entry 1 of 2)
: deed, act especially : a notable or heroic act


EG, when she made a specifically notable scientific breakthrough, she would get a direct stimulation of pleasure.  It was a plot point in Portal 2, when Wheately takes her spot.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6650 on: November 16, 2019, 07:58:52 am »

I know what an exploit is, I just didn’t know what exploit she did. What was the breakthrough?
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6651 on: November 16, 2019, 08:10:31 am »

You've completely misinterpreted the statement.

It's not a specific scientific exploit, it's each time she achieved a scientific exploit.

Basically, she'd get high any time she made a scientific discovery. It wasn't pre-ordained which discovery that was for. The point was she was designed to make discoveries and was rewarded whenever she did.

Your interpretation is like interpreting the sentence "if you run over a person you will go to jail" and asking "which person is that, specifically?"
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6652 on: November 16, 2019, 08:12:08 am »

Ah, so why was it dangerous? My question is how does discovering things go wrong!
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6653 on: November 16, 2019, 08:14:45 am »

Think of all the experiments you could do on humans, they count as "discoveries". So she's mentally torturing people and getting off on it, as long as the tortures are "novel" each time.

I haven't even played the games, but I can work that much out.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6654 on: November 16, 2019, 08:16:58 am »

Oh. Thanks for clarifying
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6655 on: November 16, 2019, 02:45:13 pm »

The experiments tend to be ones that don't actually answer anything anyway. More or less just 'can this human survive this death trap room.' It's enough to qualify for her programming, but Portal 1 GlaDOS just runs people through the same series of makework deathtrap tests until they die or she runs out of tests, at which point she nerve gasses them and defrosts another subject to run through the situation.

In Portal 2 she devises new 'test' rooms, but they're basically made out of a spiteful desire to kill Chell for revenge. She spent a long time doing basically nothing but kill people for pleasure like a rat pressing a button to get food until someone started to beat her.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6656 on: November 17, 2019, 02:00:45 am »

How can an AI be a she?
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6657 on: November 17, 2019, 04:13:22 am »

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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6658 on: November 17, 2019, 04:35:55 am »

Spoiler for Portal 2
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6659 on: November 17, 2019, 07:47:31 am »

How can an AI be a she?
Excuse me, are you assuming the AI's gender???
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