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[utunnels]

In theory we can build a 3-frame animation, by setting up lots of gem windows in correct order.

For example, a 3-frame gif like this:



It requires 950x3=2850 gems.

Cropped version(no black gems so I changed background as well):



It requires 476x3=1428 gems.

[Thormgrim]

that would be a truly amazing accomplishment.  IIRC, the order of animation in multi-gem gem windows is based on the order the gems were mined, not the order they were put into the window, so you would have to mine them in the right order and somehow keep track of that.

[silverskull39]

How does that track with imported Gems?

[Baffler]

that would be a truly amazing accomplishment.  IIRC, the order of animation in multi-gem gem windows is based on the order the gems were mined, not the order they were put into the window, so you would have to mine them in the right order and somehow keep track of that.

It'd be time consuming, but the best way to do it would probably be to mine three gems in the needed order, make the window, then mine some more. The real question is, do they sync up automatically, or will two gem windows built with the same gems mined in the same order need to be built at the same time to flash in sync?

[puke]

that would be a truly amazing accomplishment.  IIRC, the order of animation in multi-gem gem windows is based on the order the gems were mined, not the order they were put into the window

No, order cut.  Science is here:  http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76685.0

I could have sworn it was based on order installed when I had last experimented with these -- but that was years ago and I could have gotten it wrong.  I have no reason to believe the folks in that other thread have bad information, so go with that.

Also, seems easy enough to just test by building and disassembling and re-building a window.  If the order changes when you rebuild it differently, it is build order.  If not, it is cut order and the 2011 thread is still valid.

[Itnetlolor]

Do we have a means of knowing what color what gems are? I mean, we can always use different gems of the same color to organize frames.

[utunnels]

that would be a truly amazing accomplishment.  IIRC, the order of animation in multi-gem gem windows is based on the order the gems were mined, not the order they were put into the window, so you would have to mine them in the right order and somehow keep track of that.

What?
Well, that is a problem.

No, order cut.  Science is here:  http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76685.0

Ah, that is better. So maybe one window at a time.

Do we have a means of knowing what color what gems are? I mean, we can always use different gems of the same color to organize frames.

There are some wiki pages. But I guess it is hard to obtain all 15 colors (16 minus black), but usually you don't need all colors.

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Stone
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Gem
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Color

[utunnels]

I could have sworn it was based on order installed when I had last experimented with these -- but that was years ago and I could have gotten it wrong.  I have no reason to believe the folks in that other thread have bad information, so go with that.

Also, seems easy enough to just test by building and disassembling and re-building a window.  If the order changes when you rebuild it differently, it is build order.  If not, it is cut order and the 2011 thread is still valid.

I happen to have a save.
So let me do a quick !!science!!.

Edit*

fact 1:
The order is same as the building material order, which is what you see when you "t" the building.

fact 2:
The order I select the material doesn't matter.

The gems I used to test are all imported from the caravan.

[Larix]

Little heads-up for inspiration:
http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-2668-gemwindowspulsar

User ancistrus has already made a neat animation from gem windows.

[utunnels]

Little heads-up for inspiration:
http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-2668-gemwindowspulsar

User ancistrus has already made a neat animation from gem windows.

Ah, that is impressive.

[Baffler]

Can you use cut gems made from layer stones for gem windows? That'd probably make it much easier to get enough grays, at least.

[utunnels]

Can you use cut gems made from layer stones for gem windows? That'd probably make it much easier to get enough grays, at least.

Yeah.
Actually I found a problem with stones. It seems impossible to find dark gray colored stones, because gem windows will always have bright color.
For example, marble is white and granite is supposed to be light gray. But actually they are both white when used as gem window materials.
I thought gabbro is dark gray, but it turned out to be light gray.

Any solutions?

[wierd]

I just checked in the Inorganic_Stone_Gem raw. There are no gems that have [DISPLAY_COLOR:0:0:1] (Dark grey).

The only item in Inorganic_Stone_Mineral with that color tag is Slade.


To get dark grey, you WILL have to resort to modding.

[Dwarf4Explosives]

And at that point, you might as well use black.

[puke]

You need three greyscale shades, you might as well make them White, Light Grey, and Black.

Is there a black, though?  I'm not seeing it, if so.  It looks like Obsidian should display as dark grey [0:7:0] but I dont see anything that should display as black [0:?:0]

And from what you're saying, stone display color does not match cut gem color?  maybe they all get their brightness clicked up to 1?

If that is the case, you'll have a hard time making Brown, also.