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Taffer

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Re: Revised
« Reply #60 on: September 25, 2017, 10:30:49 pm »

seems you finished the reptiles in the repo. I'm looking forward for your release 1.4!
Also I like the comments a lot. As I always end up modifying such mods a bit to my taste such a documented collection of changes is quite helpful. Especially after coming back again to DF  ;)
Keep it up!

Thank you for the show of support! It makes me smile.

1.4 is progressing, but its progressing slowly. I just don't have much free time right now, and often get writers block when I do sit down to get some writing done. It's starting to look like I won't finish before the next DF release, which will be a shame. I won't support the next release until the writing is done.

I'm just finishing up creature_riverlakepool_new.txt. This leaves me with the descriptions in:

  creature_next_underground.txt
  creature_small_mammal_new.txt
  creature_small_mammals.txt
  creature_small_ocean.txt
  creature_small_riverlake.txt
  creature_standard.txt
  creature_subterranean.txt
  creature_temperate_new.txt
  creature_tropical_new.txt

There's a todo list on top of that, but that's comparatively easy.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2017, 02:42:08 pm by Taffer »
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Deinos

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Re: Revised
« Reply #61 on: October 22, 2017, 07:12:30 pm »

I thought I had an error, but I think the mistake is on me.
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Re: Revised
« Reply #62 on: October 29, 2017, 07:38:14 pm »

PTW for interest.
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Re: Revised
« Reply #63 on: November 24, 2017, 12:58:14 pm »

A variety of reasons have contributed to me not writing descriptions much lately, which leaves me in the annoying position of having a major new update half-finished.

I think it would be almost as much work to update the current version now and merge the half-finished work in after than it would be to just update everything, so I'll try to pick up the pace and proceed that way. It'll take some time, unfortunately, because I'm a perfectionist and I want to do this right.

The update will be well worth it, IMO. The new descriptions are good enough to be considered the "best part" about the mod.
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Re: Revised
« Reply #64 on: November 27, 2017, 04:00:25 am »

Looks like this is compatible with 44.02 along with Grimlocke's mod.
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« Reply #65 on: November 27, 2017, 08:17:50 am »

Looks like this is compatible with 44.02 along with Grimlocke's mod.

0.44.02 made changes to the raws that need to be merged in. I'm not sure what will happen if those changes aren't merged in.
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Re: Revised
« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2017, 09:47:29 pm »

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I've updated the mod to DF 0.44.02, since Taffer seemed a bit occupied with other things.
All the new tags and tokens were added, and scout tag was removed from kobolds as per file changes.
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« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2017, 10:39:35 pm »

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I've updated the mod to DF 0.44.02, since Taffer seemed a bit occupied with other things.
All the new tags and tokens were added, and scout tag was removed from kobolds as per file changes.

Thank you kindly! Please let me know what suggestions you have: I'll be seeing what I can cut from the mod and I have a list of small things I want to do after the description update: most notable might be an armor simplification inspired by Grimlocke's mod (no "leg armor", armor protects necks, lower body, and legs by default).

I noticed your combined version, DoomOnion, and appreciated the indirect feedback: I hadn't thought about fruit seeds causing clutter in Fortress mode. I'll probably go the opposite way and delete any new seeds that I've added, and if there are any useless seeds in vanilla I'll add edible to those ones.

Some rambling about the next version, because I don't want anybody to think I've abandoned the mod. I don't ever want the mod to feel bloated with features, but I also won't hesitate to add features if they match my vision. There's a reason I stopped maintaining my modest mod fork and moved my work over to Revised.

I similarly have some FPS tweaks here and there: less clothing for goblins and elves (idea borrowed from Accelerated, to reduce FPS drops from invasions. Also fun lore, IMO). Replace ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:REQUIRED with ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE for underground creatures, goblins, and kobolds: this seems to only apply when the player is nearby, which is both inconsistent and causes FPS drops in adventure mode. Also makes more sense from a lore perspetive, IMO: I don't care how cartoonishly evil you are, feeling the NEED to kill everything neutral is just silly. Max age for goblins to keep site populations lower and encourage them to spread out a little more, that kind of thing.

I'm also thinking of reintegrating Wanderer's tiered and simplified leather: I already did the work for that some time ago, and it's less material in the lists to scroll through and a solid gameplay improvement.

You can follow general progress in the repository. The description update never seems to have an end, but I'm working better at it now and have set up the repos on my phone: this alone has helped speed things up. Items on my list will fall like dominoes pretty damn quickly once the description work is done (ha!).

I'm far too much of a perfectionist to get this done quickly, but the result is (imo) much better writing, and a dramatic improvement to Dwarf Fortress's atmosphere.
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Re: Revised
« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2017, 10:17:25 pm »

That's good to hear. One of the minor tidbit that I like about DF revised is the use of descriptions. I mean, in this day and age, a tooltip is pretty much mandatory in gaming. Descriptions are the closest we can get.

How would you make the seeds evaporate? Fixed temperature?
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« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2017, 10:40:59 pm »

How would you make the seeds evaporate? Fixed temperature?

Not sure, honestly. Add [EDIBLE] to useless seeds if it makes any sense, and ignore the problem or delete the seed if not.

I'm not interested in integrating all (or even most) of accelerated, but cutting down on useless clutter is on the agenda if it makes sense to me.

I should add that you (or anyone) is free to suggest patches on GitLab directly, if it's preferred. No promises on things being merged, but I appreciate it regardless.

The final batch of completely unfinished descriptions is going much faster than it normally would, thanks to the contributions I got for them already. My final round of editing and polishing is going quickly as well. ETA for it all is by the end of the month, I estimate (and that's a pretty conservative estimate, I edited/polished the descriptions of 4 files this weekend alone)
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Re: Revised
« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2017, 04:58:30 am »

I like the mix of features of the mod a lot.
Any plans to add vocalizations to animals in the future? I love that aspect of the game a lot, makes adventure mode much more immersive, yet the feature did not make it into the main DF, likely mostly because Toady focuses on other stuff.
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Re: Revised
« Reply #71 on: December 04, 2017, 07:40:29 am »

I like the mix of features of the mod a lot.
Any plans to add vocalizations to animals in the future? I love that aspect of the game a lot, makes adventure mode much more immersive, yet the feature did not make it into the main DF, likely mostly because Toady focuses on other stuff.

Thank you kindly for the show of confidence! I'm honored to have you say so. I like improving the vanilla game without adding many features to it. I don't mind tweaking or rewriting lore, but the intent for me was always "bugfixes, balance, and atmosphere".

As mentioned, I'm already integrating the tiered leather from Wanderer and I was somewhat tempted to remove creatures like you did before deciding it would be unpopular. (Besides, I've already simplified the names and rewrote the descriptions, seems odd to remove them now).

Yes to the vocalizations. My first version (before releasing it) had the vocalizations from Essential DF integrated, but I recollect encountering a strange bug with it and giving up. Revisiting it was actually already on my todo list for the next version, after creature descriptions.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2017, 08:08:13 am by Taffer »
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Re: Revised
« Reply #72 on: December 06, 2017, 10:49:38 am »

Yum. Looking forward to that big ol' update.
Suppose the unofficial update will do for now. :D
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