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[taptap]

Eugenics is good people, gotta support progress!

Not like eugenics is a movement built around harming actual people (got it?)... no, nothing to see here.

"Oops, we sterilized you."

"Your brother sadly died of pneumonia, we already cremated him for you."

WTF are you people smoking? Read a history book once in a while. Thanks.

[Urist Arrhenius]

Eugenics is good people, gotta support progress!

Not like eugenics is a movement built around harming actual people (got it?)... no, nothing to see here.

"Oops, we sterilized you."

"Your brother sadly died of pneumonia, we already cremated him for you."

WTF are you people smoking? Read a history book once in a while. Thanks.

Pretty sure he was trolling...

Also, please keep this thread on topic, namely selective breeding as it applies to dwarf fort. If you'd like, I'm sure a thread in General Discussion entitled "Historical Pros and Cons of Eugenics" will receive plenty of attention. Alternatively, you could argue here against the morality of caging chickens and forcing them to breed in DF, since that is being discussed.

[taptap]

Pretty sure he was trolling...

To be fair crashmaster didn't actually write that... The discussion would have been about DF genetics, if zombat had written about genetics and not baited with "unterdwarf" and "eugenics", which larix took offence at and others as an opportunity to voice their support for eugenics.

[Urist Arrhenius]

Pretty sure he was trolling...

To be fair crashmaster didn't actually write that... The discussion would have been on topic, if zombat had written about genetics and not baited with "unterdwarf" and "eugenics".

Fortunately, a dedicated few have been attempting to take a post that was not worded in the best way and directing it towards real dwarven science. As far as I'm aware, no other thread has really explored the question of what selective breeding is capable of, or how effectively it can be done. So the thread serves a purpose if you can disregard some of the language of the original author.

[draeath]

Egg layers are even easier to breed now than they used to be since the game tells you whether eggs are fertilized or not (I think, I play LNP so I don't know if it's in vanilla), so you don't have to waste nest box time trying to figure out whether the eggs are going to make babies or not...

That's a dfhack feature.

eggs-fertile: Displays a fertility indicator on nestboxes

[Badger Storm]

Honestly, I'd rather breed dogs to have gray eyes than livestock to provide the most meat, but I've always had messed up priorities.

[Teh Barple]

War is Peace! Black is White!

Is there any way to filter forum message view? I can only find how to apply a filter to personal messages (and yes, i made "eugenics" a delete argument years ago). I _would_ prefer just not seeing those threads.

OP actual content: There have been a few DF genetics experiments, but most were just a flimsy excuse for magmafying babies and sociopathy roleplay. Comparative chickens actually sound like something that could produce genuine information, since they get large clutches and short generations. Sounds like a pretty thorough setup overall; using all the offspring for further reproduction testing could easily overwhelm you with data that'd be hard to evaluate, so i'd recommend chicken roasts.

hey, stop with the thread eugenics! hiding specific threads because you don't like their kind? are you trying to create a master race or something? you freakin' racist

[Kishmond]

I usually breed large groups of dogs. In three years I can go from 2 to nearly 30 and they are both tasty and useful.
I regularly slaughter any dog born that does not have the words "gigantic" and "muscular" in their description. I usually find that this is few. In my latest fort I didn't slaughter any for a while, then looking at my large group I found only about 10% had both these descriptors. This leads me to believe that you can select for certain traits. If it works for dogs, it probably works for dwarfs too.

Off-hand question: I know 'gigantic' actually affects their size and the amount of meat they produce, but does 'muscular' do anything? Reflect attributes, maybe?

[Toady One]

If you want to talk about animal breeding, you're going to need to construct a less flame-prone thread.