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Author Topic: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!  (Read 468769 times)

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #5535 on: July 17, 2018, 04:17:14 pm »

I assume the player is programming the autodoc, but I'm just trying to be fair.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #5536 on: July 17, 2018, 04:34:04 pm »

Ah, so it's the same as before except infinitely more annoying. That makes sense, then.
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And then, they will be weaponized. Like everything in this game, from kittens to babies, everything is a potential device of murder.
So if baseless speculation is all we have, we might as well treat it like fact.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #5537 on: July 17, 2018, 05:07:48 pm »

Ah, so it's the same as before except infinitely more annoying. That makes sense, then.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #5538 on: July 17, 2018, 05:08:11 pm »

It'd be interesting if you might luck into a technicians manual near the auto-doc, that gives a bonus to succeed for that particular auto-doc. Kind of a "how-to" book made by someone who understands the quirks of that particular machine.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #5540 on: July 17, 2018, 05:15:03 pm »

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I was going to before I realized my sig is nothing but URL blocks, which are very hard on the character limit. :V
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #5541 on: July 17, 2018, 05:18:29 pm »

Man. I can't remember if I've ever been sigged before. So close!
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And then, they will be weaponized. Like everything in this game, from kittens to babies, everything is a potential device of murder.
So if baseless speculation is all we have, we might as well treat it like fact.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #5542 on: July 17, 2018, 05:22:59 pm »

Man. I can't remember if I've ever been sigged before. So close!

We'll see if I can finagle my chunky URL blocks to fit it. After all, it certainly sums up a large percentage of changes to CDDA as of the past 2 years.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #5544 on: July 17, 2018, 11:51:18 pm »

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And then, they will be weaponized. Like everything in this game, from kittens to babies, everything is a potential device of murder.
So if baseless speculation is all we have, we might as well treat it like fact.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #5545 on: July 17, 2018, 11:56:38 pm »

Just throwing in my 2 cents, I kinda thought that the whole doing bionics on yourself thing was a bit immersion breaking.  I'm happy for gameplay over reality in many situations, but you need to be able to suspend your disbeleif, and I just can't do that when talking about performing eye or brain surgery on yourself.  I was thinking that they should have needed a robot or skilled NPC to install all but the simplest of upgrades.  As long as the failure chances are tweaked such that they no longer assume you are operating on yourself, I'm all for the change.

Hospitals need more reason to seek them out imo.  Really all they are good for is buttloads of drugs.  And you can generally get all the drugs you'll practically ever need easier elsewhere.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #5546 on: July 18, 2018, 02:33:08 am »

Yeah, the one thing I'm not 100% happy with this is the lack of anestesic. Still okay I guess. In any case, I'm usually always running Bright Night.

I'm also fairly certain the chances to install have been bumped up.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #5547 on: July 18, 2018, 08:14:42 am »

caves of qud does installs via a console you have to find in game.
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« Reply #5548 on: July 18, 2018, 03:44:46 pm »

Cbms you find while scavenging should not require any anesthetic since I assume they are self install kits with their own. You use your personal skills to install

Bionics you acquire from butchered corpses should need some anesthetic since they were previously installed and maybe need to be sterilized beforehand. You still need your personal skills along with something to dull the pain for operation.

Autodoc should be a (relatively) riskfree installation but could require you to spend money to use them.

Not sure if any of these ideas are reasonable.

 
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #5549 on: July 18, 2018, 06:51:14 pm »

I'm personally more annoyed that autodocs are this magical monolithic fixtures, and the obvious isn't considered, which is to say, the ability to safely disassemble the thing and load it up in a truck.


That said, there's also another issue. That being that the design documents strictly stated that revitalization of industry was not going to happen. What happened? Apparently, devices are autonomous enough that a surgical suite that works on it's own and requires no high quality materials input can keep running no problem? But gunpowder and municipal power and the whole business is unfeasible?
Has the design doc changed recently? Or is it just being ignored because "autodoctors hehe".
If anything, the power needs of running medical suites like that alone would be comparable to capabilities to getting a small industrial base set up. The question of logistics in small scale hedge-industry is answered in the logistics of the autodoc. Same goes for the question of expertise.
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