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[Unholy_Pariah]

okay i think this works, just waiting on final confirmations about legitimacy of stat distributions.

Auron Kell
missions 4 (+1 extra for anomalous planet.), timeskip, boarding. 25 points stat/skill, 10 points bonus

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  [Final] (Initial +points)
STR: [1] (0 +5)
DEX: [2] (1 +10)
END: [1] (0 +5)
CHA: [-1] (-1 +0)
MIND: [1] (0 +5)
FATE: [1] (0 +5)
INTU: [1] (0 +5)

Handiwork________: [1] (0 +5)
Conventional_____: [-1] (-1 +0)
Unconventional___: [2] (1 +10)
Exotic devices___: [-1] (-1 +0)
Auxiliary tech___: [2] (1 +10)
Medical tech___: [0] (0 +0)
General knowledge___: [0] (0 +0)



mesk vraite
missions 9 (+1 extra for anomalous planet.), timeskip. 50 points stat/skill, 5 points bonus

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   [Final] (Initial +points)

STR: [0] (-1 +5)
DEX: [1] (0 +5)
END: [0] (-1 +5)
CHA: [-1] (-1 +0)
MIND: [1] (0 +5)
FATE: [4] (2 +35)
INTU: [0] (0 +0)

Handiwork________: [0] (0 +0)
Conventional_____: [-1] (-1 +0)
Unconventional___: [2] (1 +10)
Exotic devices___: [-1] (-1 +0)
Auxiliary tech___: [2] (1 +10)
Medical tech_____: [3] (0 +30)
General knowledge: [0] (0 +0)


Spoiler: proof im allowed to do remalles sheet (click to show/hide)

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12:59 Remalle can someone help me respec
12:59 Piecewise and -1's can't have any withoug potential fuckups
12:59 Remalle and by help me respec I mean do it for me
12:59 unholy_pariah sure i can help, says the guy who hasnt even done his
13:00 unholy_pariah hey piecewise, the piledriver we were talking about would be uncon wouldnt it?
13:00 Piecewise Probably, I mean it would be melee
13:01 unholy_pariah okay, i think ill roll up an uncon/aux specialist
13:02 unholy_pariah remalle what do you want
13:02 Remalle medicine
13:02 Remalle aux
13:02 unholy_pariah and?
13:02 Remalle uncon
13:02 Remalle And?
13:02 unholy_pariah stats?
13:02 Piecewise all in fate
13:03 unholy_pariah okay, got it
13:03 Remalle NO
13:03 Remalle gimme fate, intelligence, willpower
13:03 Remalle and dexterity

[PyroDesu]

Spoiler: Respec for Simus (click to show/hide)

Missions: 4 regular, Planetoid Mission, Timeskip, Boarding. Point Total: 30 each Stats/Skills, 10 Universal
Automatic No-Penalty +1 Level to Handiwork
All values are as follows: Points Assigned-Initial Level-Total Level

Stats:
Strength:        5   0  1
Dexterity:       5   0  1
Endurance:     5   0  1
Charisma:       0  -1 -1
Intelligence:   5   0  1
Willpower:      10  1  2
Fate:               0   0  0

Skills:
Intuition:                              5   0   1
Handiwork:                          10  1   2
Conventional Weapons:       5   0   1
Unconventional Weapons:   5   0   1
Exotic Weapons:                  0  -1  -1
Auxiliary Systems:              10  1   2
Medicine:                              5   0   1
General Knowledge:             0   0   0

Spoiler: Proof of PW letting me have a no-penalty +1 to Handiwork (click to show/hide)

PyroDesu   Speaking of automatic and free +1s... I can has one to Handi for being your primary engineering helper?
   renegade   ? I miss anything good?
   unholy_pariah   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=149606.msg6127367#msg6127367
   PyroDesu   Just chatting about the new system.
   unholy_pariah   theres your new sheet remalle
   Piecewise   Hmmm
   Well you're head of Heph so fine
   Remalle   r u srs
   >:C
   PyroDesu   YAY!
   Remalle   looks good thanks
   PyroDesu   Knew it wouldn't hurt to ask.
   PyroDesu   saves chatlog
   Piecewise   gotta not give them out so flipantly that everyone asks for one though

[NAV]

Spoiler: Final Dubley Final Sheet (click to show/hide)

Strength:2
Dexterity:1 [5]
Endurance:2 [10]
Charisma:-1
Intelligence:1 [5]
Willpower:-1
Fate:-2

Intuition:-1
Handiwork:2
Conventional:2 [10]
Unconventional:1 [5]
Exotic: -2
Auxillary: 1 [5]
Medical: 0 [5]
General Knowlege: 1 [5]

[Pancaek]

New sheet with the new rules, coming up.

Spoiler: Pan start (click to show/hide)

Strength:0
Dexterity:0
Endurance:0
Charisma:-2
Intelligence:-1
Willpower:+2
Fate:0


Intuition:0
Handiwork:-2
Conventional Weapons:0
Unconventional Weapons:0
Exotic weapons:+2
Auxiliary Systems:+1
Medical Tech:-2
General Knowledge:0

Spoiler: points (click to show/hide)

30skill and 30 stat from levelups, 10 wildpoints from boarding+timeskip

Spoiler: Pan end (click to show/hide)

 (points spend in [])
Strength:0
Dexterity:+1 [5]
Endurance:+1 [5]
Charisma:-2
Intelligence:0 [5]
Willpower:+3 [15]
Fate:+1 [5]


Intuition:0
Handiwork:-2
Conventional Weapons:0
Unconventional Weapons:0
Exotic weapons:+4 [35]
Auxiliary Systems:+1
Medical Tech:-2
General Knowledge:0

--edit: moved 5 points to int and changed initial level in uncon to aux--

[Nikitian]

So, I've been contemplating dumping the Fate down to -1 (no -2, I am not that suicidal). Currently it's +1, so that'd be equivalent to 10 points freed. Any advice on whether it's a good idea, passable, or Not Good one?

Also, to those who picked upgrading Fate on roleplaying reasons, what would be your assessment of Maurice and his Fate stat, character-wise (based on your personal interpretation of that stat's meaning)? I remember that Lenglon had previously tackled the problem with respeccing her character, and possibly several others too.

[Nunzillor]

01010100 01100101 01101011 (Tek) Respec

Spoiler: Base: (click to show/hide)

Strength: -1
Dexterity: +1
Endurance: 0
Charisma: -2
Intuition: -1
Mind: +2
Fate: 0

Handiwork: +1
Conventional Weapons: -2
Unconventional Weapons: +2
Exotic Weapons: -2
Auxiliary Systems: +1
Medical Tech: -1
General Knowledge: -2

Spoiler: Level up (1 mission): (click to show/hide)

Strength: -1
Dexterity: +1
Endurance: 0
Charisma: -2
Intuition: -1
Mind: +2
Fate: +1

Handiwork: +1
Conventional Weapons: -2
Unconventional Weapons: +2
Exotic Weapons: -2
Auxiliary Systems: +1
Medical Tech: 0
General Knowledge: -2

[Lenglon]

Also, to those who picked upgrading Fate on roleplaying reasons, what would be your assessment of Maurice and his Fate stat, character-wise (based on your personal interpretation of that stat's meaning)? I remember that Lenglon had previously tackled the problem with respeccing her character, and possibly several others too.

I never got an answer

[Nikitian]

@Nunzillor
First, bonuses can't go above +2 at chargen. Second, treat it exactly as the original system, except that there's an extra +1/-1 insterted in the bonuses/penalties progression, the bonus of which has to be used on upgrading 0->+1.

So, in general, it works this way:

The whole table of possible variants for your convenience:

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1 +1s:  1 -1s
2 +1s:  2 -1s if on separate stats
2 +1s:  3 -1s if on the same stat (as in original system)
3 +1s:  4 -1s ( 4=1+1+2)          (the inefficiency of over-specialization starts to kick in)
4 +1s:  7 -1s ( 7=1+1+2+3)
5 +1s: 11 -1s (11=1+1+2+3+4)

Oh, and it's impossible to spread around 11 -1s, as it was discovered later, so the last line is mostly for calculations reference.
Anyway, it appears that the wiki Stats and Skills page is up to date on current respeccing rules.

@Lenglon
Ah, pity. I was really looking forward to your advice on the matter, since you were the first one to bring it up originally.

[Nunzillor]

Thanks, Nikitian.  I have edited the post to hopefully be correct.

[TCM]

D'usse de Cognac

Spoiler: Initial Points (click to show/hide)

Strength: +1
Dexterity +1
Endurance: 0
Charisma: 0
Intelligence -1
Willpower: -1
Fate: 0


Intuition: +1
Handiwork: -2
Conventional Weapons: +1
Unconventional Weapons: 0
Exotic weapons:-1
Auxiliary Systems:-1
Medical Tech: 0
General Knowledge: +1

Spoiler: Post-2 Missions (10 Points) (click to show/hide)

Strength: +1
Dexterity +1 -> +2
Endurance: 0
Charisma: 0
Intelligence -1
Willpower: -1
Fate: +1


Intuition: +1
Handiwork: -2
Conventional Weapons: +1 -> +2
Unconventional Weapons: 0
Exotic weapons:-1
Auxiliary Systems:-1
Medical Tech: 0
General Knowledge: +1

[Sean Mirrsen]

D'usse de Cognac

Spoiler: Initial Points (click to show/hide)

Strength: +1
Dexterity +1
Endurance: 0
Charisma: -1
Intelligence -1
Willpower: -1
Fate: +1


Intuition: +1
Handiwork: -2
Conventional Weapons: +2
Unconventional Weapons: 0
Exotic weapons:0
Auxiliary Systems:-1
Medical Tech: -1
General Knowledge: +1

Spoiler: Post-2 Missions (10 Points) (click to show/hide)

Strength: +1
Dexterity +2
Endurance: 0
Charisma: -1
Intelligence -1
Willpower: -1
Fate: +1


Intuition: +1
Handiwork: -2
Conventional Weapons: +2 (+10)
Unconventional Weapons: 0
Exotic weapons:0
Auxiliary Systems:-1
Medical Tech: -1
General Knowledge: +1

I think I did this correctly.

Not quite.

The +1/-1 rule only works for two +1/-1s. If you have a single +2 you have to have three -1s, and if you have three +1s you have to have four -1s, and increasing from there.

So you need one more -1 (or one less +1 and one less -1) for your stats, and either turn your +2 into a +1, or add three more -1s to your skills.

On top of that, however, you get 5 points per mission for both the Stat and the skill block, so you can distribute 10 more points on Stats.

If you're confused, use this: http://parisbre56-phpexperiment.rhcloud.com/character_creation.html

[Nikitian]

@Nunzillor It appears that you have +4/-9 in total for skills, whereas for +4 only -7 is required (=1 for "first" bonus, 1 for extra bonus, 2 for "second" (third with extra) bonus, 3 for "third"(fourth with extra) bonus). Stats appear correct, though.

@TCM I'm afraid you're missing on penalties for both stats and skills in the initial charsheet; specifically, for 3 bonuses in total there have to be 4 penalties, and for 4 bonuses - 7 penalties. Please consult the table I posted above, the Stats and Skills wiki page or the character respec calculator linked in the Piecewise's title post of this thread (note that the chargen system outlined in said post is a bit out of date).
Edit: Ninja'd by Sean.

[HavingPhun]

I had read on the on ship thread that there was additional changes. Sorry for being a trouble and not reading up on the changes myself, but I am short on time. This is my sheet. Do I need to change anything on it?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Ian
Strength: -1
Dexterity: 0
Endurance: 0
Charisma: -2
Intelligence: 0
Will: +2
Fate: 0

Intuition: 0
Handiwork: -2
Conventional: +1
Unconventional: -2
Exotic: +2
Auxiliary: 0
Medical Tech: -2
General Knowledge: 0

[Nikitian]

Stats are fine, as for skills you should drop one of -2s (or downgrade two -2s to -1s).

[TCM]

Thanks for the reception, I think I've made the proper adjustments now.