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Raikaria

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Re: What's going on in your fort?
« Reply #56295 on: September 30, 2021, 05:19:52 am »

Like; there's 6~7 Z-levels just full of silver. I've never really done much with non-military metals; so I'm trying to figure out what exactly I want to do with all this silver.
Have you considered building part of your castle out of it?  I would at least make doors, hatches, statues, furniture, etc... but maybe you have enough for a whole tower?

I could definitely build a silver tower. I'd rather just get the main fortification done first however so standard blocks will do for that. I can always upgrade as I go. My metal industry isn't really strong right now; with no caverns yet I'm limited on wood, let alone magma forges.
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Re: What's going on in your fort?
« Reply #56296 on: September 30, 2021, 01:13:50 pm »

A third mood in my fort, and a third legendary dwarf gets it. This time a Weaver got upgraded to Level 27, as if it would make any difference. The game seriously wants to annoy me. Hope it's only bad luck, not a new "feature" (this is my first fort in v.0.47.05).
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« Reply #56297 on: September 30, 2021, 06:02:46 pm »

Like; there's 6~7 Z-levels just full of silver. I've never really done much with non-military metals; so I'm trying to figure out what exactly I want to do with all this silver.

I got a very similar situation. A fort in a Good tropical forest, with unicorns and regular visits from the elves.. and 5 z levels filled with two types of iron ores and flux stone, just below the surface. War with the elves seems inevitable, because I decided it will all be turned to steel in coal-powered ovens, so I can get rid of annoying trees while at it.

But now to decide.. what to make from all of that steel?
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Re: What's going on in your fort?
« Reply #56298 on: September 30, 2021, 06:20:46 pm »

Silver; spiked balls for weapon traps. Doesn't have to be the best material, you've got it in abundance. And a few statues.

Steel: military equipment, weapons and armor. Forcibly import the elves animals for war beasts.
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Re: What's going on in your fort?
« Reply #56299 on: September 30, 2021, 07:21:21 pm »

The able-bodied of the 283 dwarves of Gravearmor are spending lots of time emptying quartzite & granite blocks down the disposal chute without throwing the bins in. The dummies will learn not to stockpile 20,000 blocks for which they have no use!  (FPS had dropped to 10 and is inching back up now.)
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Re: What's going on in your fort?
« Reply #56300 on: October 01, 2021, 01:55:40 am »

Steel: military equipment, weapons and armor. Forcibly import the elves animals for war beasts.
I will have a lot of steel left after making weapons and armor for everybody. But you gave me an idea. Mazes full of weapon traps, using a masterwork steel mechanism and ten masterwork steel large serrated disks each, cutting elves, goblins and wildlife to pieces. Not terribly original, but satisfying.

Btw your quote is the most accurate description of the daily life of a programmer working on legacy code I've seen.  :D
« Last Edit: October 01, 2021, 01:58:25 am by Quarque »
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Re: What's going on in your fort?
« Reply #56301 on: October 02, 2021, 01:04:09 pm »

I was inspired by the latest DF update video to change my workshop layout around.  I like the efficiency of a single tile hallway with workshops all along it.  And as more are needed, I just extend it out.  Also, I'm working on better stockpile organization with quantum stockpiles to condense things like gems and ammo without using bins.  I tend to abandon most forts a couple years in out of boredom, and I suppose to some extent FPS drop, but this time I made a small 65x65 world, so I'm hoping it will stay snappy and I'll stick with it for some time.  Rather than let mined out stone accumulate into the 1000s as usual, I'm going to instead use all the excess to train up the jewelers.  I made some adjustments to the raws for this world such that the dwarves can craft just about every type of weapon and clothing, but otherwise nothing unusual with this embark.  High quality bronze scimitars for everyone!

I'm also trying out making a dedicated hauler.  With the QSPs, they should keep fairly busy.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2021, 01:43:59 pm by Schmaven »
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« Reply #56302 on: October 02, 2021, 04:51:17 pm »

The Good: 40 meleedwarves and 10 supporting rangerdwarves fought off a 250+ gobbo siege in 1 FPS carnage.

The Bad: A meleedwarf bled to death.

The Ugly: 6 months of post-siege cleanup.

We've finished off the artificial river island, Elephant Island, and the underground river. Unfortunately, despite being in direct contact with the river, we cannot fish from the underground river. Not even pond fish. Nevertheless, we created a somewhat shielded fishing spot at the tip of the trunk of the island.

We've pierced the first cavern and have begun securing it. We've got a security checkpoint, multiple washing troughs, some FOB lodgings and stockpiles, LOS breaks, and a checkerboard--all caravan certified. Two forgotten beasts are trapped by trees, one of which due to lacking wings (it gets harassed by a giant bat every now and then). The checkerboard has proven itself useful by making webspitting forgotten beasts much less effective at trapping soldiers in webs.

We've also setup a rudimentary minecart route to the first cavern to ease the hauling workload. A population cap of 100 dwarves, and 55% military at 67% active, do not make hauling easy.

Oh, and we're overflowing in bars and goblinite. The caverns must burn.

We've also built a clear glass greenhouse, so now we can supplement our clothing industry with rope reed. Milling has also screwed us over a bit. We have had tons of dimple cups, but we milled mostly non-dye plants. That has been fixed now.

I've furthermore learned that adding "DRINK-MAT-producing" to your milling job plant reagent condition can reduce cancellation spam when separating dye plants from the rest. Only creates problems with oats (non-dye plant, millable but non-brewable) and sliver barb (dye plant, millable and brewable).

Slowly, we'll work our way to the magma.
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Re: What's going on in your fort?
« Reply #56303 on: October 03, 2021, 04:59:12 am »

I've furthermore learned that adding "DRINK-MAT-producing" to your milling job plant reagent condition can reduce cancellation spam when separating dye plants from the rest. Only creates problems with oats (non-dye plant, millable but non-brewable) and sliver barb (dye plant, millable and brewable).

you could also set up stockpiles that only allow dye plants to feed the dye mills, and set the querns/millstones to take from those piles. You'll also need them to take from a furniture stockpile containing only bags.
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Re: What's going on in your fort?
« Reply #56304 on: October 03, 2021, 07:29:06 am »

That's the separation I mentioned, yes. But without a job manager, you'll quickly use up all the bags (unless you do funky minecart wizardry) or overproduce. And without an additional plant reagent condition, you'll get cancellation spam since you are counting more than just the dye plants.

So for the non-dye mills, you use "Millable DRINK-MAT-producing plants", and for the dye mills you use the dye plant itself.

There are only four dye plants, and many more non-dye millable plants. Much less work setting it up, though woe be your manager :P.
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Re: What's going on in your fort?
« Reply #56305 on: October 03, 2021, 01:56:18 pm »

Surfaces forts are a very cool challenge and it is very fun to do them, but it is significantly harder to wall off yourself. It is also harder still if you delayed setting up a military because you built a beautiful wall that the elves paid for, since due to the elven funding you ignored felling the trees on the outside of the fort, providing a neat way to just walk in through the branches. I'll just set a room for refuse and hope for the best.
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Re: What's going on in your fort?
« Reply #56306 on: October 04, 2021, 09:29:16 am »



Oh no.

The urge to declare Exterminatus intensifies.

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See? Suffer the gobbos and the dwarves will immediately delve into heresy.
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Re: What's going on in your fort?
« Reply #56307 on: October 05, 2021, 12:01:51 am »

Exterminatus is more difficult than it at first seems. The gobbo population will continue to rise with time, so you'd have to raid nonstop. So you'll need a lot of raiders.
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« Reply #56308 on: October 06, 2021, 08:06:10 pm »

Bastiongate managed to nearly exterminate the local goblins back in 0.40, but that was because 40 years of sending sieges took a toll on their population. They were down to just the demon lord and like 2000 trolls.

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« Reply #56309 on: October 13, 2021, 04:04:09 am »

I'm again trying out magma mist generators as a siege defence. On the first test something clearly went wrong; I didn't see what happened but there is now an eternally burning Goblin Maceman swimming in my magma works. He isn't melting or even drowning, and seems actually quite content despite being on fire.
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