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Re: Dungeons & Dragons / PNP games thread: The Barren Snowflake Wastes
« Reply #7350 on: October 17, 2019, 01:51:01 pm »

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Despite being a full caster in 5e Bard is the least full castery of the spellcasters.
We counting Warlock there? And how do you define "full caster"? 'Cause Bard technically has the largest potential selection, and certainly more slots than Warlock, and also attack cantrips, sooo... I dunno man.

Speaking of similar things, I've been fiddling with the idea of a mountain dwarf wizard focusing strength and constitution over int... Plenty of utility spells, free medium armor and weapons proficiencies... Quirky!

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« Reply #7351 on: October 17, 2019, 02:22:23 pm »

I personally consider warlock more of a half caster or 2/3rds caster, it's basically an eldritch knight fighter that specialises in cantrip based archery (eldritch blast compares pretty well with archery fighters) or a support caster with a few side gimmicks. 2 spells per short rest isn't a whole lot to work with in my experience when the actual full casters can drop major spells and a smattering of minors in basically every encounter. Especially since a lot of warlock spells don't benefit from being upcast.

I've personally gotten more mileage out of the beast speech invocation than my actual spell slots anyway.



And yeah, mountain dwarf wizard is a good combo for wading into melee. SCAG cantrips for melee, good access to buffs and some of the subclasses for wizard are not too shabby for getting up close and personal.
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Re: Dungeons & Dragons / PNP games thread: The Barren Snowflake Wastes
« Reply #7352 on: October 17, 2019, 02:58:33 pm »

Technically Warlocks don't have Spellcasting class feature.

I would argue that Paladin(2nd level min) and Warlock are pretty decent Barbarian multiclasses as well.
What should their portmantau be?
Barbladin? Palarian? Wararian? Barblock?
Barbadin is probably the most common I've seen
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Re: Dungeons & Dragons / PNP games thread: The Barren Snowflake Wastes
« Reply #7353 on: October 17, 2019, 04:42:29 pm »

And yeah, mountain dwarf wizard is a good combo for wading into melee. SCAG cantrips for melee, good access to buffs and some of the subclasses for wizard are not too shabby for getting up close and personal.
Yeah, this is pure vanilla, but I'm trying to build up a repertoire of "non-optimal" characters for the event I get into a casual DnD group and don't want to tilt the power level too much. So dwarf with max strength and good con, but just somewhere around 14 int. Stack up buffs and other stuff that doesn't check spellcaster stat, then wade into melee with a warhammer for funtimes

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Re: Dungeons & Dragons / PNP games thread: The Barren Snowflake Wastes
« Reply #7354 on: October 18, 2019, 01:18:17 pm »

I must say, I greatly approve of the new Unearthed Arcana that came out yesterday. Such fun concepts they're playing with!
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Re: Dungeons & Dragons / PNP games thread: The Barren Snowflake Wastes
« Reply #7355 on: October 18, 2019, 02:14:45 pm »

With a quick glance, the 13th level Revived feature looks too situational, but then again I don't remember the other Rogue subclass features at that level, so it might be totally in-line.
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« Reply #7356 on: October 18, 2019, 02:15:22 pm »

I must say, I greatly approve of the new Unearthed Arcana that came out yesterday. Such fun concepts they're playing with!
I originally thought you were being sarcastic, but I just started reading and haven't really made my mind up yet. Also, as with any good UA, I'm already seeing stuff that's imba as fucking fuck!


As an amusing sidenote: The names of the runes the rune knight can inscribe are basically just Norwegian/Scandinavian words. This is particularly entertaining because a couple of them suffer from Google Translate syndrome.

Haug ("hill"), for example, is just straight up the Norwegian word for a heap or pile. But I especially giggled at Uvar ("storm"), because that's just "uvær" without the fancy character. Uvær literally just means "bad weather".

Also holy fuck "for 1 minute, use your reaction to impose advantage or disadvantage on any attack roll, saving throw or ability check made by you or another creature within 60 feet of you", and on a short rest. That's hilariously broken.

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Re: Dungeons & Dragons / PNP games thread: The Barren Snowflake Wastes
« Reply #7357 on: October 18, 2019, 02:18:20 pm »

Rune Knight's probably going to get toned down, but none of its abilities are stuff I'd consider broken. There's a lot of fighter builds that rely on using reactions, and lots of sources of advantage and disadvantage.
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Re: Dungeons & Dragons / PNP games thread: The Barren Snowflake Wastes
« Reply #7358 on: October 18, 2019, 02:24:16 pm »

Do you a lot of sources give disadvantage to a saving throw once a round for a minute?
Use alongside someone with Contagion. Give advantage to the attack roll, and then give disadvantage to all 5 Saves.

Also, a Revived doesn't need an action to deal Sneak Attack damage. How can this be used?
EDIT:Oh, and it doesn't require a weapon, advantage, or someone near your enemy to deal the damage, just need to use a bonus action for Hide, Disengage or Dash.
You can dash two times in a turn and still deal damage. Tabaxi Revived anyone?
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Re: Dungeons & Dragons / PNP games thread: The Barren Snowflake Wastes
« Reply #7359 on: October 18, 2019, 02:29:49 pm »

That would make Contagion much more worthwhile to use for sure.

Revived's third level ability will probably get a rework cause you can Sneak Attack with Cunning Action and then Ready an action and use that to sneak attack too. Which is doable in other ways, but it generally requires you to be a higher level.
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Re: Dungeons & Dragons / PNP games thread: The Barren Snowflake Wastes
« Reply #7360 on: October 18, 2019, 02:31:45 pm »

Contagion is very good even without the dis/advantages.
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« Reply #7361 on: October 18, 2019, 02:33:22 pm »

Contagion is very good even without the dis/advantages.
Its alright when you're not trying to kill the person you're hitting with it. Otherwise combat is usually over before it does its job.
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« Reply #7362 on: October 18, 2019, 02:42:19 pm »

Okay, so I started reading the Swarmkeeper section and immediately thought it was this:

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You magically attract a swarm of fey spirits that    look like Tiny beasts of your choice.

Tiny beasts. Tiny. Beasts. We just had this discussion!

Cat. CR 0. Unaligned. Tiny beast.

Crazy cat lady ranger, activate! A swarm of cats crawling all over you at all times! Angry cats fly alongside your arrows! A seething feline mass makes you float into the air! Summon a 30 foot sphere that's fucking filled with cats!

Like, geeze, I don't even care that they used wriggling squids as an example in the lead-in text. Cats.

Also never be trapped or locked up again because hilarious teleportation, but mostly cats.

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« Reply #7364 on: October 18, 2019, 02:44:41 pm »

Okay, so I started reading the Swarmkeeper section and immediately thought it was this:

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You magically attract a swarm of fey spirits that    look like Tiny beasts of your choice.

Tiny beasts. Tiny. Beasts. We just had this discussion!

Cat. CR 0. Unaligned. Tiny beast.
Wait, are those target-able by Animal Shape?
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