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[Kagus]

Is it though? Technically it's a feat ability, not an item ability, and the Thief perk lets you "use an item" as a bonus action.

So I'd say it's a matter of being able to stabilize with a bonus action (as per the healer kit), then heal with an action (as per the Healer feat).

[Persus13]

The funny thing is that Healing Spirit literally just got errataed to not be overpowered anymore.

Thieves using their bonus action to heal with healing kits is a fun build to do. I've got a character that's built around that. And while you can bring people to 1, doing the second bullet point is better because while people with 1 health are back in the fight, its a bad place to be if you're fighting anyone who can do a lot of damage.

Is it though? Technically it's a feat ability, not an item ability, and the Thief perk lets you "use an item" as a bonus action.

So I'd say it's a matter of being able to stabilize with a bonus action (as per the healer kit), then heal with an action (as per the Healer feat).

It does. Feat ability is not a defined term, so that has no impact on rules interactions. You're using a Healer's Kit item to do something that requires an action for its use, which is considered the Use an Object action, which Thief Rogues can do as a bonus action.

[Egan_BW]

It would be fun to play a setting with no magical healing where rogues are the main healers, IMO.

[GiglameshDespair]

Is it though? Technically it's a feat ability, not an item ability, and the Thief perk lets you "use an item" as a bonus action.

So I'd say it's a matter of being able to stabilize with a bonus action (as per the healer kit), then heal with an action (as per the Healer feat).

You are using an item to heal, much as you're using an item to stabilise.

Consider the wording of the default healer's kit.

As an action, you can expend one use of the kit to stabilize a creature that has 0 Hit Points, without needing to make a Wisdom (Medicine) check.

vs the feat

As an action, you can spend one use of a healer's kit to tend to a creature and restore 1d6 + 4 hit points to it, plus additional hit points equal to the creature's maximum number of Hit Dice.

Same as it's using an item to deploy caltrops.

As an action, you can spread a single bag of caltrops to cover a 5-foot-square area.

'As an action, you can do X' is just the wording they utilise for using an item, and so the feat applies.

The funny thing is that Healing Spirit literally just got errataed to not be overpowered anymore.

Oh? What's the change?

It would be fun to play a setting with no magical healing where rogues are the main healers, IMO.

You'd just have to rest after each combat, since you can only heal a person once per rest with the feat.

[Persus13]

Healing Spirit only heals 1+ your spellcasting ability times before the spell ends. It was in the latest round of errata which released in the last week.

[Egan_BW]

It would be fun to play a setting with no magical healing where rogues are the main healers, IMO.

You'd just have to rest after each combat, since you can only heal a person once per rest with the feat.

Ideally the players shouldn't always have the option of long resting after each and every fight. Though that might make things way too hard if medkits are 1/long rest. Maybe you could make it cost Hit Dice or something along those lines.

[pikachu17]

It would be fun to play a setting with no magical healing where rogues are the main healers, IMO.

You'd just have to rest after each combat, since you can only heal a person once per rest with the feat.

You can still stabilize as long as you have healer's kit uses though, and unless you can heal a lot, bringing back people from 0 is the most important healing thing in combat.

It would be fun to play a setting with no magical healing where rogues are the main healers, IMO.

You'd just have to rest after each combat, since you can only heal a person once per rest with the feat.

Ideally the players shouldn't always have the option of long resting after each and every fight. Though that might make things way too hard if medkits are 1/long rest. Maybe you could make it cost Hit Dice or something along those lines.

Uh... Do you mean they shouldn't have the option of short resting after each fight?

[Egan_BW]

Is the healer perk short rest or long rest? A short rest would be more reasonable to lean on in a game without magical healers.
Oh right, you can't do it to the same person before they rest again, right? I was thinking that it was the healer can only do it once and then they have to rest again to use it on anyone else. That makes more sense. I could even see you getting by with one healer and recharging it with a long rest in that case.

[Persus13]

Its any rest, short or long, on the person who got the healing.

[itisnotlogical]

I named my animal companion Swiftfoot, despite being a bird.

A bird.

Named Swiftfoot.

It was a bit of a snap decision at the end of the session, there are other options that might have been more interesting but I figured at the time that a flying creature would have the most utility. I didn't want to pick something so cliche, but the subset of animal companions available to a ranger is almost all cliches. No giant termites or sniper cactus for me.

I'm sure I'll grow to love him, once I have the required in-character downtime to teach him the tricks he's actually capable of.

[scriver]

Having a giant termite for an animal companion sounds like a great way to find yourself a solo adventurer

[Iduno]

Having a giant termite for an animal companion sounds like a great way to find yourself a solo adventurer

Yeah. We want a giant tick, or something.

[scriver]

Also I don't see anything wrong with the silly name at all, lots of birds are swiftfooted. Swiftfeeted? Sweeftfeeteed?

[delphonso]

Or you're just very likely to kick the thing if it misbehaves.

[Rolan7]

No giant termites or sniper cactus for me.

But you could have a sniper wolf!  Or a decoy octopus - well, squid.