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[Kristviljan]

Are mutations included in this mod? I haven't gotten around to actually playing yet so I'm sorry if the question is something that's easily answered in-game.

[Teneb]

Are mutations included in this mod? I haven't gotten around to actually playing yet so I'm sorry if the question is something that's easily answered in-game.

Sort of. They can be gained (and will still be able to be gained after the rework) by the WoC, Norse and Beastmen at a certain workshop. I may do something for regional interactions too, but have to see how feasible it is.

[Kristviljan]

So I assume mutations aren't a factor in Adventure mode. How does learning magic work in Adventure mode? Is it just like normal with you finding slabs containing the secrets of this lore or that lore or can you learn it in some other way?

[Teneb]

So I assume mutations aren't a factor in Adventure mode. How does learning magic work in Adventure mode? Is it just like normal with you finding slabs containing the secrets of this lore or that lore or can you learn it in some other way?

Find slabs and be able to learn that lore. For instance, only a goblin can learn the lore of da little waaagh!.

[Kristviljan]

I suppose it's a side effect of having a character roll for the spells it learns with a specific Lore but I tried running a Keeper of Secrets adventurer and found that I only learned 3 or 4 of the spells from the Lore of Slaanesh when I used it's natural ability to learn the Lore. This doesn't really seem like it's working as intended, I mean a greater daemon of Slaanesh should be able to cast all the spells from the Lore of Slaanesh but then again I didn't make this mod so I wouldn't know.

[Teneb]

I suppose it's a side effect of having a character roll for the spells it learns with a specific Lore but I tried running a Keeper of Secrets adventurer and found that I only learned 3 or 4 of the spells from the Lore of Slaanesh when I used it's natural ability to learn the Lore. This doesn't really seem like it's working as intended, I mean a greater daemon of Slaanesh should be able to cast all the spells from the Lore of Slaanesh but then again I didn't make this mod so I wouldn't know.

It's as designed. Keep in mind that you are still a greater daemon and thus pretty much unstoppable.

[Teneb]

Ok, figure I might do a status update. Dwarfs, Empire, and the Vampire Counts are pretty much done in terms of changes. All I need to do is a few changes to entities (which I'm leaving for last so I don't need to go back and forth). Skaven and Necromancers are next for changes, but theirs are minor in comparison. That will then leave the Greenskins, which will also be simple, and Chaos. Ghouls will be lucky if they get anything other than a few tweaks to their creature.

[Teneb]

All right, I think I can finish nearly everything tonight. Most of what would be left over for tomorrow would be testing and the manual (which I will likely put up before I start testing).

After the last post I did the changes I needed to do to Necros and Skaven, then did about half the stuff for Greenskins. Now I'm wrapping up there and will head for Chaos. After that, it's Wood Elves, who will likely not receive too much (but may in the future if I get ideas), and misc stuff.

EDIT:

Spoiler: Tentative Changelog (click to show/hide)

R12 ("A Grudge Stricken")
Moved slayers and chaos chosen to roses' class system.
Fixed further mistakes and oversights.
Added jade griffon creature.
Added more pets and minions to all entities. May end up reverting this depending on how it turns out.
Gnoblars are way bigger.
Shovels can now be used by smaller creatures.
Made sweeping changes to a bunch of playable creatures and entities.
Added a semimegabeast version of the liche.
Removed storms of magic because they were outright torture to edit.
Chaos sorcerers can now use the lore of heavens.
Vampires can now use additional lores.
Greenskins renamed to orcs & goblins.
All greenskins should now be called "he" instead of "it".
Flamers are no longer a caste of the daemons of Chaos playable creature. You can still get them as pets and such.
Limited various positions of many entities to specific creatures.
Norse have a new caste: the ulfwerenar.
All "siege weapons" removed.
Varghulf size and price increased again.
Varghulf no longer intelligent.
Razorgor size increased.
Carnosaur size and price increased.
Added treeman ancient semimegabeast.
All creatures now have stats.
Bale taurus and lammasu now properly considered creatures of Chaos and monsters.
Colossadon description less laconic.
Added two new gems: oathgold and brightstone.
Added a new vampire bloodline, the harkoni vampires (vampire coast/sarstoan vampires).
Added creatures for each vampire, but they won't appear normally.
Added Nurgle plague zombies.
Anvil of doom no longer requires runes to construct.
Runes are now forged in the anvil of doom.
Added a new weapon to the dwarfs: the blasting charge launcher. It also has a runic version.
Added the iron daemon megabeast.
Added new equipment for the empire: the lance and doppelhander weapons, the longcoat and armoured robes armours, and the capotain, bonnet and cavalier hats.
Added new equipment for the warriors of Chaos: the armoured robes.
Added new equipment for the norse: the seax weapon.
Added regional interactions to evil and good regions.
Hellcannons now cause fear instead of terror.
Hellcannons can no longer jump.
Added reactions to entities that use poison to allow them to use various creature extracts as such. Currently you'll need to import these extracts.
Priest of Ulric renamed to wolf priest.
Added a ton of artifacts.
Templar shrine renamed to templar chapterhouse.
Removed various workshops from various civilizations.
Fixed make and drink skavenbrew reactions names and descriptions.
Added a workshop-less reaction to the skaven to ensure they always have warpstone.
Fixed call caravan and call migrants reactions names.
Added playable REDACTED.
Added einherjar creature.
Made vargheist and varghulf blood turn humans into more of the same.
Added incarnates.
Snow trolls have hair that insulates them from cold now.
Added rare double-headed castes for griffons.
Added claustrophobia to those applicable. May not work perfectly due to a vanilla bug.
Remade the manual in a much better format, available both online and as a pdf.
Mahtmasi vampires now have an interaction that gives them a small chance of "hypnotizing" a hostile intelligent.
Banshees and harpies are now referred to as "she".
Added more skin colours to strigoi while reducing eye colours.
Strigoi attributes rebalanced.
Von carstein attributes rebalanced.
Added moon-based interaction to beastmen.
Remade the mutalith mutation aura.
Added new equipment for skaven: the bladed star thrower, the doomrocket launcher, shock-prod and electro-whip weapons,  and the warlock optics helmet.
Added eggs for all spiders.
Norse sorcerers now called seidmenn unless using a Chaos lore (then they're still sorcerers).
Norse seidmenn can use the lore of beasts.
Norse bards are now called skalds.
Changed some norse position names.

[ZebioLizard2]

Too tired, I was about to question why you were adding Necrons to the map.

Though for Wood Elves you could make it so they could awaken Dryads, Treekin, and Treemen (Along with ancients) with all the various arrow types that cause debilitating effects, along with some ability to make forests or something, I dunno how effective one can work the fancy DFhack stuff.

[Teneb]

Too tired, I was about to question why you were adding Necrons to the map.

Though for Wood Elves you could make it so they could awaken Dryads, Treekin, and Treemen (Along with ancients) with all the various arrow types that cause debilitating effects, along with some ability to make forests or something, I dunno how effective one can work the fancy DFhack stuff.

Pretty sure I can't do the Make Forest thing. At least with currents scripts. The rest I already did (and threw Zoats in because why not). I'm working on regional stuff now, mutations and stuff (and anti-Chaos and anti-Undead effects for good regions, which is already done).


EDIT: I'd rather not double post just yet, since I may end up releasing a version today (I sure hope so). There are only six things that need to be done:
-Stat creatures (boring, drawn out)
-Finish regional interactions (interesting, still should take some time)
-Add artifacts (not as interesting, who knows how long)
-Add three inorganics (really fast)
-Do the new manual (needs to be done)
-Testing (could be fast, could take more than a day)

[Teneb]

Version out. I couldn't do any sort of testing involving forts with huge populations because my CPU died and I'm having to use an old one that I luckily had kept around.

Fixed a lot of stuff, added a lot of stuff. Manual will come soon, but I didn't want to keep the mod on hold because of that. Halflings were added and are playable, but have no custom interactions other than basic stuff like blocks that everyone else has.

Regional stuff didn't make it because I'm going to need to think for a bit on that.

Spoiler: changelog (click to show/hide)

R12 ("A Grudge Stricken")
Moved slayers and chaos chosen to roses' class system.
Fixed further mistakes and oversights.
Added jade griffon creature.
Added more pets and minions to all entities. May end up reverting this depending on how it turns out.
Gnoblars are way bigger.
Shovels can now be used by smaller creatures.
Made sweeping changes to a bunch of playable creatures and entities.
Added a semimegabeast version of the liche.
Removed storms of magic because they were outright torture to edit.
Chaos sorcerers can now use the lore of heavens.
Vampires can now use additional lores.
Greenskins renamed to orcs & goblins.
All greenskins should now be called "he" instead of "it".
Flamers are no longer a caste of the daemons of Chaos playable creature. You can still get them as pets and such.
Limited various positions of many entities to specific creatures.
Norse have a new caste: the ulfwerenar.
All "siege weapons" removed.
Varghulf size and price increased again.
Varghulf no longer intelligent.
Razorgor size increased.
Carnosaur size and price increased.
Added treeman ancient semimegabeast.
Bale taurus and lammasu now properly considered creatures of Chaos and monsters.
Colossadon description less laconic.
Added two new gems: oathgold and brightstone.
Added a new vampire bloodline, the harkoni vampires (vampire coast/sarstoan vampires).
Added creatures for each vampire, but they won't appear normally.
Anvil of doom no longer requires runes to construct.
Runes are now forged in the anvil of doom.
Added a new weapon to the dwarfs: the blasting charge launcher. It also has a runic version.
Added the iron daemon megabeast.
Added new equipment for the empire: the lance and doppelhander weapons, the longcoat and armoured robes armours, and the capotain, bonnet and cavalier hats.
Added new equipment for the warriors of Chaos: the armoured robes armour, and the wrath-flail weapon.
Added new equipment for the norse: the seax weapon.
Hellcannons now cause fear instead of terror.
Hellcannons can no longer jump.
Added reactions to entities that use poison to allow them to use various creature extracts as such. Currently you'll need to import these extracts.
Priest of Ulric renamed to wolf priest.
Templar shrine renamed to templar chapterhouse.
Removed various workshops from various civilizations.
Fixed make and drink skavenbrew reactions names and descriptions.
Fixed call caravan and call migrants reactions names.
Added playable halfings.
Added einherjar creature.
Made vargheist and varghulf blood turn humans into more of the same.
Added incarnates.
Snow trolls have hair that insulates them from cold now.
Added rare double-headed castes for griffons.
Added claustrophobia to those applicable. May not work perfectly due to a vanilla bug.
Mahtmasi vampires now have an interaction that gives them a small chance of "hypnotizing" a hostile intelligent.
Banshees are now referred to as "she".
Added more skin colours to strigoi while reducing eye colours.
Strigoi attributes rebalanced.
Von carstein attributes rebalanced.
Added moon-based interaction to beastmen.
Added new equipment for skaven: the bladed star thrower, the doomrocket launcher, shock-prod and electro-whip weapons,  and the warlock optics helmet.
Added eggs for all spiders.
Norse sorcerers now called seidmenn unless using a Chaos lore (then they're still sorcerers).
Norse seidmenn can use the lore of beasts.
Norse bards are now called skalds.
Changed some norse position names.
Chaos fury name changed to just fury.
Chaos familiar name changed to chaotic familiar.
Added the turnskin creature.
Added a new soil: ash.
Added the avatar of Khaine secret.
Added the glorious dead creature.
Empire lord renamed to graf.
Where applicapble, male creatures can now be gelded.
Rearranged the creature file to make it easier to edit.
Frostfiend can now appear as a semimegabeast.
Furies now have more colours.
Wraith and banshee natural skills nerfed.
Removed Deon's DF Wanderer.

[toasteroftoast]

Hooray for new versions, and for Halflings at last!
Thanks for all your continued work - fantastic mod.

[KingofstarrySkies]

gasp

[Teneb]

I let a bug slip by and chosen are not working correctly. The next update is small is almost ready. I just need to do two workshops and some interactions and the manual. The first wo are fast, but I dislike making workshops in general. The manual will take a bit more but I might have it done tomorrow if I can muster the will to do it. A fix for the chosen will, of course, be added with it.

[Teneb]

New version out. Fixed some stuff, Bretonnia is playable. I forgot to include the manual, but I'll just reupload soon since there will be no changes to the mod itself.