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Author Topic: The Doctor's Cipher.  (Read 33441 times)

Empiricist

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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2015, 08:19:50 am »

if you quote PW's post it turns out each line of symbols is separated, and does not break up into sequences of three symbols.
I was assuming it was done automatically by a word processor or for presentation rather than being meaningful in any way.

Theta, Omega, Wave, Triangle, and Phi.
The triangle is probably delta and wave is lambda :P
Been a while since I last saw you in an ER thread. Planning on having a crack at the cipher and rejoining with an AoW? :P

I decided to try using each character as base-5 numbers. Due to Java apparently not liking the greek alphabet I used MS Word to replace all the characters in my triplet sequence with letters from the regular alphabet.
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Δ = A = 0
θ = B = 1
λ = C = 2
Ф = D = 3
Ω = E = 4

I then shoved it into the following tool I made:
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import java.util.*;
import java.io.File;
import java.io.PrintWriter;
import java.io.IOException;

public class Cipher
{
public static void main(String[] args) throws IOException
{
String triplet;
int clearnum;
Scanner fileReader = new Scanner(new File("Code.txt"));
PrintWriter writer = new PrintWriter("Clearnum.txt", "UTF-8");

HashMap<Character, Integer> key = new HashMap<Character, Integer>();
key.put('A', 0);
key.put('B', 1);
key.put('C', 2);
key.put('D', 3);
key.put('E', 4);

while(fileReader.hasNextLine())
{
triplet = fileReader.nextLine();
clearnum = 0;

for(int i = 0; i < 3; i++)
{
clearnum += key.get(triplet.charAt(2 - i)) * Math.pow(5, i);
}

writer.println(clearnum);
}
fileReader.close();
writer.close();
}
}
This converts it according to the assumptions I made.

The result is as follows:
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49
50
9
102
51
31
35
115
114
32
50
37
77
81
123
65
63
35
81
97
1
13
94
108
94
0
65
40
21
95
65
109
1
63
51
77
119
97
52
31
115
41
17
105
63
21
52
28
5
34
40
79
107
40
3
59
103
89
49
13
4
35
40
77
58
65
109
0
119
51
21
38
97
51
34
63
41
56
109
40
100
59
31
69
38
79
124
40
3
59
103
94
49
94
4
65
63
24
95
65
109
4
115
114
77
38
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114
31
119
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109
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115
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5
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108
13
4
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70
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94
I hope it is somewhat useful for something. Even if that something is discrediting my triplet theory >__<
« Last Edit: July 22, 2015, 08:22:43 am by Empiricist »
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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2015, 08:38:26 am »

I found that if you analyze the text into bigrams, the resulting set is very roughly similar to the normal English character frequency, sans E.

Also, there happens to be 25 unique bigrams in the text. Index of Coincidence is 0.004 which means (1) this isn't a simple substitution cipher (2) I made the wrong assumption about how it is ciphered.

Not very helpful, eh? I doubt that this is going to be cracked quickly or easily :(
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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2015, 08:40:29 am »

Yeah, considering that it can help unravel secrets, retrace another NPC's steps, and grants a 50-token bounty, it's probably going to take quite a while to solve it >__<
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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2015, 08:59:14 am »

Hmm... I am going to have to give this a try.
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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2015, 09:09:33 am »

PTW.
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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2015, 10:35:09 am »

...what could be considered an equivalent cash prize?
Cause I'll do morally questionable things for the right amount of tokens that don't even exist RL.
Look at how much an avatar costs.

That much.

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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2015, 11:37:20 am »

I tried to see if any of the lines were significant and if their size or whether or not they had odd or even number of letters depended on a letter or a combination of letters. That's as far as my notes go. May try a bit more letter:
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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2015, 03:35:59 pm »

Doing some research...

I think it's a vigenere cypher. Fuck me.

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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2015, 03:39:09 pm »

Doing some research...

I think it's a vigenere cypher. Fuck me.
Then you should probably try "THE FLESH IS WEAK"

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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2015, 03:40:29 pm »

The problem now is finding out what symbol corresponds to what letter :P

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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2015, 03:45:26 pm »

Doing some research...

I think it's a vigenere cypher. Fuck me.
Major things of import related to the Doctor: The 'Coordinates', 'Phobetor' who I must add was the reason the Doc got executed in the first place, and 'VonNost'.

Maybe one of them is (Or several) are a key word.
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« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2015, 03:54:41 pm »

Doing some research...

I think it's a vigenere cypher. Fuck me.
Major things of import related to the Doctor: The 'Coordinates', 'Phobetor' who I must add was the reason the Doc got executed in the first place, and 'VonNost'.

Maybe one of them is (Or several) are a key word.
Considering this is most likely the same cipher the serial killer UE found, maybe try "the coming darkness" or something.
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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2015, 04:06:52 pm »

I'll look at the period, see if I can catch a good number in there.

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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2015, 04:41:50 pm »

I'm going with the assumption that it's a homebrew Cypher, something PW cooked up after one two many hours working on an update.
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Re: The Doctor's Cipher.
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2015, 04:42:28 pm »

It's going to use a classical cypher, that's how he did it by hand.

Th problem is finding out the rules he used to crack it. Bluh.
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