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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #8835 on: November 08, 2020, 07:27:53 pm »

If they wait until someone died naturally it would be like organ transplant

I guess another distinction would be whether they are the same being with same memories making it sort of a biological engramming rather than mechanical/cyber.
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« Reply #8836 on: November 08, 2020, 07:29:37 pm »

That's probably how the Necrophyte job operates - they reanimate everyone who dies and eventually there's enough necroids to constitute a full pop.
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« Reply #8837 on: November 08, 2020, 11:56:30 pm »

I've heard on the youtubes they might add a new district type, for metallurgist and civ good jobs.  And the old factory/forge buildings would specialize these districts to the corresponding output.

The latest dev diary talks about this - they're decoupling build slots from population and moving alloy and consumer production primarily into districts. Factories and Foundries will be planet-unique and make all Industrial Districts grant more of the corresponding type of job.

Incidentally, a big reason for this change is cited as making the autobuilder more capable of handling planet development instead of requiring constant micro even into late game...
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« Reply #8838 on: November 09, 2020, 09:05:57 am »


The latest dev diary talks about this - they're decoupling build slots from population and moving alloy and consumer production primarily into districts. Factories and Foundries will be planet-unique and make all Industrial Districts grant more of the corresponding type of job.

Incidentally, a big reason for this change is cited as making the autobuilder more capable of handling planet development instead of requiring constant micro even into late game...

Hopefully the AI will be slightly less braindead.

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« Reply #8839 on: November 09, 2020, 12:40:22 pm »

Incidentally, a big reason for this change is cited as making the autobuilder more capable of handling planet development instead of requiring constant micro even into late game...

So much yes

With max systems/max inhabitable planets there is SO MUCH MICRO because the autobuild changes my specialized planets and sectors. While having one sector building 90%+ of my alloys is a huge strategic risk perhaps, it's also much more efficient for bonus stacking. The autobuild likes to put commercial factories on my alloy planets argh; so I turned it off and every so often I spend literally an hour at least on pause queueing up buildings and moving populations around by hand.

Anything that makes the autobuild more functional is great. Personally I would find being able to set my own autobuild templates the ideal, so I could make an autobuild template for an alloys world for example. I'd have it build a robot factory first, then gene mod, then noble estates like I do on every habitable place, then start the buildings the planet is suitable for.
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« Reply #8840 on: November 26, 2020, 03:18:23 am »

I think that Unity generation from purging pops as a genocider (Determined Exterminators and Fanatic Purifiers) has been changed in a recent patch. Instead of being constantly produced as the pops are purged like energy is with Grid Amalgamation, or being produced per dead pop as the wiki states, it seems to be a constant amount of Unity gained per month as pops are being purged. Unfortunately, I have absolutely no idea what that amount is, because it seems to change every time I try and measure it.
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« Reply #8841 on: November 26, 2020, 08:07:37 am »

anyone knows the different between, say, specializing a sector on minerals vs specializing all planets of a sector on minerals?
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« Reply #8842 on: November 26, 2020, 11:44:31 pm »

Today's dev diary is pretty cool: link.

I'm sure whatever ends up in the final version won't be extremely deep, but it's still nice that they're fleshing out first contact and making a lot more information initially hidden.
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« Reply #8843 on: November 27, 2020, 11:00:44 am »

anyone knows the different between, say, specializing a sector on minerals vs specializing all planets of a sector on minerals?
I'm not sure if there is any sort of difference beyond the former requiring you to add resources to the sector in order for it to build anything and the latter drawing directly from your empire's resource stores (which might not be correct, actually).
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« Reply #8844 on: November 27, 2020, 10:20:42 pm »

anyone knows the different between, say, specializing a sector on minerals vs specializing all planets of a sector on minerals?

If you mean what advantages that would bring, the main one I can think of that you could assign a governor with +mining traits and it effects every planet in the sector.


Oops, I misread that, you didn't ask that.

I'm not sure if there is any sort of difference beyond the former requiring you to add resources to the sector in order for it to build anything and the latter drawing directly from your empire's resource stores (which might not be correct, actually).

This sounds right though I don't use autobuilder very often. I think you can also add energy or minerals to a sector and they go to the same resource pool if I remember correctly. If that's true that could be useful if you are swimming in energy credits but minerals price has inflated in the market and you've traded out the other empire's stock.

The autobuilder isn't great for specialized planets though unless I was using it wrong. It liked to put commercial goods factories everywhere, such as my alloy sector. I'm not sure if it goes by a build template or if it looks at what resources it thinks your empire is in need of.
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« Reply #8845 on: November 30, 2020, 01:15:45 am »

Autobuilder is generally regarded as utterly inept at actually doing anything useful and can (unfortunately) be completely ignored in normal gameplay.
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« Reply #8846 on: November 30, 2020, 08:35:04 am »

I can't express how happy I am that they're finally putting some passive pop migration/movement into the game.
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« Reply #8847 on: November 30, 2020, 08:11:17 pm »

It was desperately needed, and I'm happy with it too.  It sounds like it'll solve some of the problems I experienced with Greater Than Ourselves too, where my pops kept resettling and ruining my buildings because I went below the pop level needed for the building slot, since buildings aren't tied to pops now.  Unless they change things again like Wiz did, when he experimented with this and decided he didn't like the idea of prebuilding ghost cities on planets just to build up the infrastructure.

I actually very rarely use resettling since I usually play empires that can enact population controls, and do so because I find constant resettling to be way too fiddly.  I typically only resettle pops if a planet accidentally goes over its housing limit, which I resettle just so the warning indicator goes away.  The only time I'd make use of the resettling abuse to keep every single planet a pop breeding factory would be if I were tackling the 25x crisis and needed to min-max super hard to prepare for it.

It'll still be nice to use that if the game automates it, of course...
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« Reply #8848 on: November 30, 2020, 08:35:10 pm »

Mm, whereas my empires are predominantly egalitarian.  Partially to allow the shitty immigration model to do it's thing, but also to let me adopt the second best ethic: Utopian Fucking Abundance.

Doesn't matter who is under our banner, all are welcome, and all will have their needs met.
And with their help, we will secure our place in the universe, for all people everywhere <3
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« Reply #8849 on: November 30, 2020, 08:54:59 pm »

Obviously I also play absolute nightmare builds.  Mostly robotic.  Sometimes friendly hive.
But I consider that an indulgence.
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