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Author Topic: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE  (Read 1231297 times)

Broseph Stalin

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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7740 on: January 30, 2019, 04:19:14 pm »

A starbase can be very useful but if you can muster enough force to make a starbase tough enough to defend itself frankly you're probably punching down so hard you're wasting time worrying about defense. The key to a starbase is that they can make it really suck to fight somewhere. If you're evenly matched that can be the difference between ordering a tactical retreat and massacring hostile forces.
You can also use starbases as traps. I like to sprinkle hard hitting defense platforms in groups of one or two when I take a system. You can make sure retaking a system costs a corvette or two and you can hold the enemy fleet still for a few extra seconds when they're staying a step ahead of your guys. If you're evenly matched with an enemy take a system, let the base recover, and then bait them into attacking. Let them wear down their armor and shields fighting the base and then swoop in when they're soft.

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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7741 on: January 30, 2019, 04:35:08 pm »

I do definitely plop down a couple defense platforms in occupied systems. Disrupts that trickle of reinforcements nicely.
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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7742 on: January 30, 2019, 05:04:36 pm »

A starbase can be very useful but if you can muster enough force to make a starbase tough enough to defend itself frankly you're probably punching down so hard you're wasting time worrying about defense.
Sometimes its the travel time more than the fleet power that gets me. In one of my games it takes >2 years to travel across my entire claimed territory end to end, so an unexpected war or a war when a fleet is out of position can be a problem. I have to station multiple fleets around to keep all areas covered and more to handle piracy. I can't just concentrate all fleet power on a whim. Well planned defensive stations really help and provide chokepoints to gather and hold at until more ships arrive
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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7743 on: January 31, 2019, 06:53:42 pm »

It absolutely does, yeah. I consider it a benefit of militarist, even if you don't intend to do war early.
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« Reply #7744 on: January 31, 2019, 07:08:19 pm »

I've noticed the same thing.  I have no idea why.
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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7745 on: January 31, 2019, 08:14:59 pm »

It's deliberate from what I gather.  It's probably intended to make the early game more interesting, but does mean that playing, say, xenophiles is annoying since your neighbors will hate you.
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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7746 on: January 31, 2019, 09:41:40 pm »

Interesting. I've noticed a preponderance of spiritualists near my materialists from time to time, but I also set my games up to include at least two fanatical purifiers, one metalhead, one devouring swarm, and one driven assimilator, so I didn't realize it was an intentional feature when I ended up with an unusual number of generally hostile neighbors. 
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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7747 on: January 31, 2019, 09:54:58 pm »

Yep, the ai favors the opposite of your ethics. I assume it's to make sure you don't all stomp one guy and gather around the campfire singing kumbaya.

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« Reply #7748 on: February 01, 2019, 12:22:49 am »

It just makes sure that you are the one guy who gets stomped. It would be better if the game made sure there was a generally even mix of ethics, if not true random.
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« Reply #7749 on: February 01, 2019, 12:35:23 am »

It's kinda annoying, given that they spawn you next to a bunch of AIs that hate you, at the one point in the game where the AIs are the scariest. At times it can feel like the game revolves solely around climbing Mount Democraticrusader, and you either die or you make it to the top and the game suddenly has no more tricks to throw at you to keep you busy for the next 200+ years.
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« Reply #7750 on: February 01, 2019, 02:04:07 am »

Sometimes you get empires with similar ethics, though. Usually there's both, I think. I've had games where I've intended to enslave and conquer my neighbors from the get-go, only for them to turn out fellow authoritarians and militarists who like me so much I can't bring myself to attack them. Wonder if anyone's ever dug up how the spawning logic works and what the probabilities are.
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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7751 on: February 01, 2019, 03:56:29 am »

Yep, the ai favors the opposite of your ethics. I assume it's to make sure you don't all stomp one guy and gather around the campfire singing kumbaya.

That should be the role of the game crisis tho

ok so I picked it up again. created some custom races etc.



anyway: I got a question: how do you expand influence? I know you can build station to force it, but all other empires don't have to build a station on every single planet, while my empire is full of holes

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also, it seems I can't assign systems to sectors for management
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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7752 on: February 02, 2019, 06:58:15 pm »

Hey, how's the new content, and how hard is the adjustment?
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« Reply #7753 on: February 02, 2019, 07:21:53 pm »

anyway: I got a question: how do you expand influence? I know you can build station to force it, but all other empires don't have to build a station on every single planet, while my empire is full of holes

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also, it seems I can't assign systems to sectors for management

You build a station in every system now, it's part of the big changes in in 2.0 that happened about a year ago. Most of them you leave as tiny zero sized stations, only upgrading to real stations at important places or when you need certain modulus.

New in 2.2 you don't assign systems to sectors. Sectors are (somewhat awkwardly) automatically generated when you colonize a planet in a star cluster that doesn't have a system already. Also they no longer have their own resource bank, instead doing nothing by default (except seriously limiting the reach of the bonuses that governor leaders give, since leaders are now per sector instead of per planet, but in exchange have their cost tied to how large your empire is for some reason) although you can still give them permission and resources to automate them if you want. The idea is with the economic changes in 2.2 there's suppose to be less "pointless" clicking and things are suppose to be more based around actual decisions and hopefully less micromanagement, thus sectors would no longer really be needed and not do anything by default, but still there if you really want them. Personally I'm not sure if they really achieved that, but ymmv.

Hey, how's the new content, and how hard is the adjustment?

Imo the new content is full of good ideas implemented really poorly, like, shockingly poorly, and with zero actual testing. Although now, a month and a half after release, some of the more glaring bugs have been fixed, there's still a lot of serious flaws in implementation that I don't have much hope for us actually seeing fixed. Adjustment isn't too bad. Just take it slow, and probably it'd be best to read up on the dev diaries at least so you don't jump in blind. Economic management is very different, but not very complex or deep or hard to grasp.
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« Reply #7754 on: February 02, 2019, 10:36:12 pm »

Yeah, just take your first game in 2.2 slowly and you'll probably pick up pretty quickly.  I had the new system down pat by the time I finished a game.

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This is about how I feel.  I really enjoy the game and the changes, but there are some serious issues with the new economy that need to be fixed, like the fact that you can cheese monthly resource requirements by buying a little from the market every month, or can just outright ignore upkeep since at worst you get like 50% penalties to things like alloy production no matter how far in the hole you are with minerals and energy.

Job priorities also act weird, machine empires are kind of in a seriously bad state with energy upkeep, lots of bugs still, etc.
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