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Criperum

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Few bridge improvements.
« on: August 22, 2015, 04:48:52 am »

Sorry if theese suggestions were somewhere before.
1. Make bridges non-magical. They shouldn't shrink into nothing. If you have 3x3 retracting bridge then you have to dig place for it to retract to. *of course you can cover it with floors*. If you have rasing bridge you must have a gap in the wall high enough to fit the bridge.
2. Make bridge a complex building. You need a bridge, two gear assemblies and ropes to raise bridge up and down. *I saw a suggestion about ropes*. Players need to build gear assemblies separately and connect it to bridges with ropes/chains. And levels should be connected to those gears not to bridges directly.
3. New type of bridges. Bridges which moves aside into the wall in any directions or opens like a gate or door
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Re: Few bridge improvements.
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2015, 09:41:34 am »

I know that more realistic moving multi-tile constructions are planned, but I haven't seen any specifics. I assume that well-precedented things like portcullises and large doors (more than 1 tile wide) are a given, and I also expect raising/lowering and sliding walls. I'd also like to see a complete inability to make drawbridges out of stone, because that's flatly ridiculous (except perhaps for a solid slab of cast obsidian). I concur with having a "working area" for each bridge (or any other moving multitile), where things like the winches & counterweights are stored/operated.
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Re: Few bridge improvements.
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2015, 09:56:56 am »

My suggestion is based more on current functionality. Now we have bridge of any size that turns into a wall-like structure hallways 1 tyle high. That's wrong and can be changed easily. Just add on construction check of above empty tiles.  And 10x10 bridge turns into a wall 10 tiles high.
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Re: Few bridge improvements.
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2015, 01:40:43 pm »

Moving fortress parts are planned and when they're implemented, perhaps all bridges can just be moving constructions. Moving floors, for example.
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Re: Few bridge improvements.
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2015, 02:01:28 pm »

I hope I won't die of old age earlier. But my suggestions actually can be done without such a massive feature like moving blocks.
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Re: Few bridge improvements.
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2015, 10:10:52 am »

My suggestion is based more on current functionality. Now we have bridge of any size that turns into a wall-like structure hallways 1 tyle high. That's wrong and can be changed easily. Just add on construction check of above empty tiles.  And 10x10 bridge turns into a wall 10 tiles high.
We don't have multi z-level structures yet.
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Re: Few bridge improvements.
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2015, 02:33:07 pm »

Closest I can think of is the way wells extend vertically when in use.
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Re: Few bridge improvements.
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2015, 03:21:37 pm »

Closest I can think of is the way wells extend vertically when in use.

Exactly
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Re: Few bridge improvements.
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2015, 10:37:29 am »

Closest I can think of is the way wells extend vertically when in use.
Those don't block pathing, so I'm not sure it's quite the same. On the other hand, vertical axles don't either, so it might just be a designation thing.

The other issue is that if we're implying the drawbridge is swinging, you'd need to check obstacles in the swing arc. Current version just folds accordion, or something. It could be ignored for now, but honestly Toady will probably just end up rewriting bridges entirely with moving fortress sections.
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