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[Thisfox]

The chief medical dorf has become a duchess. Fine. Then she's in getting some diagnosis done on some of the patients when...

"The Duchess of Unionship has turned into a werepanda!"
I descended to the kitchen/hospital level to watch her patient get out of his bed and run like anything. He got away.
"The Duchess of Unionship has turned into a dwarf!"
"The Duchess of Unionship cancels diagnose patient: Patient not resting"

...heh. No way he's resting now, your excellency. No way at. All. He's busy having a heart attack...

So. Now I've got to work out how to corner and store the Duchess. Great. I didn't even see her get bitten... But evidently she managed it.

[Argonnek]

Just disable her labors so that she hangs out in her room, then lock the door and wall her in. Or perhaps use a raising bridge so that you can refill it with new, unbroken furniture after every full moon.

[Immortal-D]

I can fully imagine this scene playing out, and I can't stop grinning.  She changes into a Dwarf and is all confused, wondering why her patient is now smiling nervously and insisting he is fit to work again when his hand is clearly shredded.

[PatrikLundell]

I'd device the storage, disable furniture hauling on everyone except the duchess, order the installment of some furniture in the storage facilities, and then set up a burrows while she's on the way there.

You'd then have to decide how to handle the situation:
- Execution. If I understand it correctly that will block diplomatic exchanges (no more tree quotas!) with tree huggers or boring humins.
- Careful management.
-  A: Try to build a dynasty (if weres can procreate and produce dorflets). Rather tricky since she's female, and thus would carry the dorflet around for a year. I'd try to abuse the mine cart bug where riders puts down the child to ride the cart to save the child from the mother. You may have to repeat this if the baby starts to get thirsty/hungry and nobody gives it what it needs, with careful timing with respect to the moon's phases. Execution when the child is old enough to take over is optional. (Also, given my skill at dorf match making, the chance of her having/getting a relation is very close to zero).
-  B1: Have her continue to carry out her normal duties and lock her away once a month. Annoying micro management.
-  B2: Keep her locked away except when spies diplomats arrive. Carefully time the removal of the physical containment (I'd use a drawbridge, rather than having to set up and remove a brick wall) with the moon's phases.

A would have to be combined with either B1 or B2 if that alternative was pursued, of course.

[Thisfox]

I can fully imagine this scene playing out, and I can't stop grinning.  She changes into a Dwarf and is all confused, wondering why her patient is now smiling nervously and insisting he is fit to work again when his hand is clearly shredded.

Yup. "I changed my mind I'm fine I'm just gonna go talk to Urist over there... Hey, hey Urist, how's it going man, GET ME THE ***** OUT OF HERE" it is an excellent comical situation.

...I remember having a weregiraffe doctor walled into the upstairs hospital for years in one of my forts, but he never got to work on an injured dorf before it happened. He was also comical, because I imagined him banging his head repeatedly on the ceiling.

I'd device the storage, disable furniture hauling on everyone except the duchess, order the installment of some furniture in the storage facilities, and then set up a burrows while she's on the way there.

You'd then have to decide how to handle the situation:
- Execution. If I understand it correctly that will block diplomatic exchanges (no more tree quotas!) with tree huggers or boring humins.
- Careful management.
-  A: Try to build a dynasty (if weres can procreate and produce dorflets). Rather tricky since she's female, and thus would carry the dorflet around for a year. I'd try to abuse the mine cart bug where riders puts down the child to ride the cart to save the child from the mother. You may have to repeat this if the baby starts to get thirsty/hungry and nobody gives it what it needs, with careful timing with respect to the moon's phases. Execution when the child is old enough to take over is optional. (Also, given my skill at dorf match making, the chance of her having/getting a relation is very close to zero).
-  B1: Have her continue to carry out her normal duties and lock her away once a month. Annoying micro management.
-  B2: Keep her locked away except when spies diplomats arrive. Carefully time the removal of the physical containment (I'd use a drawbridge, rather than having to set up and remove a brick wall) with the moon's phases.

A would have to be combined with either B1 or B2 if that alternative was pursued, of course.

I fear A isn't possible, she really seems to have no interest in finding a hubby. Some of the other dorfs have hooked up, and even had kids, but she's one of my founding seven, has been around not doing much for seven years, and never attached herself to anyone. She got plenty of socialisation, but it didn't seem to make her interested.

B1 is too much work, B2 has the advantage of an undying fort. I have a fine vampire mayor at the moment who is doing a good job from a locked office I keep meaning to wall off, so I might do the same to the Baroness.

She's not the only werepanda, at the moment, though, so until I get this werecascade sorted out, she's just another inconvenience. It's possible she got the malady from a patient. I don't think she did, but someone was biting people, other than the vampire. Just didn't know they got my Baroness chief medic. Sigh.

[PatrikLundell]

I believe there is a DFHack plugin called fix-ster that can be used to modify sexual preferences, although I haven't tried it myself.

I'm too disorganized and lazy for B1 (although I probably would try that one if I went for a breeding attempt), but B2 could work, and you might even get her to perform some useful work in the mean time by changing her profession to one that doesn't require dorf-to-dorf contact (mine cart dumping source material down a smoothed natural stone chute and output products thrown down a chute blocked by a retracting drawbridge that's occasionally opened/closed at safe periods to release the produce).

[Thisfox]

I fear I've never bothered with the DFhack stuff, so that's not an option for me.

...And it's all come to a stunning conclusion anyhow. The Werepanda Cascade in the year 256 was larger than expected, and rather a lot of dorfs died. I trapped a whole bunch of children in a back room when they turned out to be all Werepanda Children. They fought to the death, the Baroness went around killing the other adult werepandas in the bedrooms, another one transformed whilst working in the smithy and killed the coalburners, and there was an "incident" in the kitchens. It's all over: No more infected. I have about ten normal dorfs cleaning up the blood all over the fort, the Baroness dead (but not able to be put in her coffin in her tomb, because she was a werebeast when she died, and it doesn't work that way) and the vampire mayor dead of coral forgotten beast dust in the walled-off caverns, with about four pieces of Artifact armour and an Artifact bone sword.

The fort will still never die: The final remaining werebeast child has grown to adulthood, in a walled off room scattered with the remains of other werebeasts, blood, and puke. He will live forever. Add to that the migrants who have already started arriving. They then possibly really doubted their decisions when they saw the sixty torn and dead bodies, the layers of accumulated blood, and the rotten miasma-pumping wardogs in the kitchens (One of the cooks was not only a dog trainer, but also, it turns out, a werepanda) but hey, it helps to have more dorfs to start shifting bodies and scrubbing staircases.

The patient who was scared by the Duchess? He's still around. He fought a werepanda off using a lovely iron pick at one point, and he's still suffering from injuries, but he's not infected, so he can go on to tell the tale of how the Duchess transformed when he was a patient. I don't think he'll ever seek help for his injuries. He just doesn't trust doctors...

[PatrikLundell]

A bit odd the weres fought each others, as I thought they killed everything but their own kind, but I apparently was wrong. It's also surprising you managed to get so many infected, as my limited experience of weres (they seem to use the same pop limit as vamps < my pop limit) is that they corner and kill one dorf after another, so only the one being fought while it turns back survives, but my dorfs might be more cowardly than yours.

And, your fortress will die. Some day Urist McCurious will wonder who the nice neighbor he never met is... If the were is locked in by a drawbridge you'll get a Gremlin in to let it out, or someone wonders what would happen if the were was given a pick an the mining labor. Or an attempt to weaponize the were will fail horribly.

[Insert_Gnome_Here]

The easiest way to move weres about by far is by giving them their own squad & stationing. much less micromanagement.

Also, weres can kill each other if they saw each other transform back, or something. It's a loyalty cascade type bug.

[TheFlame52]

As for breeding werecreatures, impossible. Weredwarves are sterile.

[Bumber]

As for breeding werecreatures, impossible. Weredwarves are sterile.

Are they all, or is that just the original immortal one?

[TheFlame52]

All of them.

[ArKFallen]

All of them.

And how have you reached that conclusion? Cuz I've reached the opposite one from looking at world.dat.

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interaction_layer [OBJECT:INTERACTION]% [INTERACTION:DEITY_CURSE_WEREBEAST_1] [GENERATED] [I_SOURCE:DEITY] [IS_USAGE_HINT:MAJOR_CURSE] [IS_HIST_STRING_1: cursed ]Q [IS_HIST_STRING_2: to assume the form of a kangaroo-like monster every full moon] [I_TARGET:A:CREATURE] [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE] [IT_REQUIRES:CAN_LEARN] [IT_REQUIRES:HAS_BLOOD] [IT_FORBIDDEN:NOT_LIVING] [IT_FORBIDDEN:SUPERNATURAL]) [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:WERECURSE]) [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:VAMPCURSE]1 [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:DISTURBANCE_CURSE] [I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
 [IE_TARGET:A] [IE_IMMEDIATE]
 [SYNDROME] [SYN_CLASS:WERECURSE]  [CE_BODY_TRANSFORMATION:START:0]' [CE:CREATURE:NIGHT_CREATURE_21:DEFAULT] [CE:PERIODIC:MOON_PHASE:27:0] [CE_ADD_TAG:NO_AGING:START:0]
interaction_layer [OBJECT:INTERACTION]* [INTERACTION:DEITY_CURSE_WEREBEAST_1_BITE] [GENERATED] [I_SOURCE:ATTACK] [IS_HIST_STRING_1: bit ]: [IS_HIST_STRING_2:, passing on the kangaroo monster curse] [I_TARGET:A:CREATURE] [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE] [IT_REQUIRES:CAN_LEARN] [IT_REQUIRES:HAS_BLOOD] [IT_FORBIDDEN:NOT_LIVING] [IT_FORBIDDEN:SUPERNATURAL]) [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:WERECURSE]) [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:VAMPCURSE]1 [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:DISTURBANCE_CURSE] [I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
 [IE_TARGET:A] [IE_IMMEDIATE]
 [SYNDROME] [SYN_CLASS:WERECURSE]$ [CE_BODY_TRANSFORMATION:START:16800]' [CE:CREATURE:NIGHT_CREATURE_21:DEFAULT] [CE:PERIODIC:MOON_PHASE:27:0]As the werebeast bite cursed lack the NO_AGING that the progenitors have. And both should still require sustenance when not beasting.

And why do you think they are sterile? There was a thread where someone was weirded out because his werebeast momma was trapped in a 1x1 but her baby didn't die after several transformations.

[TheFlame52]

Oh, I'm mistaken then. Sorry. But werebeasts don't need food even when untransformed because their counters are reset when they change.

[ArKFallen]

Oh, I'm mistaken then. Sorry. But werebeasts don't need food even when untransformed because their counters are reset when they change.

That's cool. They get hungry but don't starve.