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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16155 on: April 15, 2016, 06:03:32 am »

By adding more text to it. If you go back in your browser history before the edit, you would fit the same content, rather than something completely different.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16156 on: April 15, 2016, 06:04:32 am »

*sigh*
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16157 on: April 15, 2016, 06:11:02 am »

By adding more text to it. If you go back in your browser history before the edit, you would find the same content, rather than something completely different.

Regardless of this quarrel, Elf has made his ruling. Let us not dwell on such matters as these, the heat of the moment can make hostility live longer than it ought to, often with internecine results, something I'd rather avoid.

Elf: Are are RES-piercing bonuses/damage actually Pure Damage conversions by default? Or is all Pure damage explicitly declared?
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16158 on: April 15, 2016, 06:14:59 am »

I always have to wonder what the point of "*sigh*" posts is. We know you're unhappy, it doesn't actually convey anything.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16159 on: April 15, 2016, 06:17:18 am »

It conveys that I've given up, despite still strongly believing I'm right.

Also, Elf, a hypothetical:Would Pure Damage ignore http://engl393-dnd5th.wikia.com/wiki/Aid ?

Would a passive that instead heals you for damage taken up to a limit automatically not proc on Pure Damage?
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16160 on: April 15, 2016, 06:22:12 am »

Well, I mean, you haven't really given up whenever you make that post, though. The passive-aggressiveness of it is what bothers me, really.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16161 on: April 15, 2016, 06:25:13 am »

Oh and, Elf, for further clarification, can Pure damage be redirected? Such as through Tower Stance, Interception, or Calm Vigil? What about dodged?

It conveys that I've given up, despite still strongly believing I'm right.
You realize that Elf is now planning on harvesting your sighs, right? :P

Would a passive that instead heals you for damage taken up to a limit automatically not proc on Pure Damage?
Highly doubtful. Point of difference between that and Shielding is that it won't save you if the net damage exceeds your HP. Which of course, is to say that you should consider having an upgrade or Passive that cannibalizes Shielding before damage calculations when being struck with Pure. A pre-emptive heal of sorts.

EDIT: To clarify, I mean it is highly doubtful that Pure Damage by itself would negate it, short of dropping the character with the hit or having some additional heal-jamming effect.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16162 on: April 15, 2016, 06:31:37 am »

inb4 emp recommends everyone switching to Pure damage
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« Reply #16163 on: April 15, 2016, 06:35:25 am »

inb4 emp recommends everyone switching to Pure damage
Actually, it's far easier to just have a Deep Pass style Action that converts damage to Pure rather than doubling it. It was even approved for Alanis to use already. It means that you could have a Support character perform it, instead of making everyone pack RES-piercers or Pure at the cost of reduced power just in case a foe has a Kinetic Shell or something.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16164 on: April 15, 2016, 06:36:16 am »

Pure Damage can be redirected.

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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16165 on: April 15, 2016, 06:42:14 am »

Pure Damage can be redirected.
Fish, you might want to take Shade's recommendation then. A Kinetic Shell Minion with HP equal to normal Kinetic Shell, and no Actions other than automatically taking hits for the person it's applied to.

Assuming of course, Elf doesn't decide to crack down on such summons by disallowing such actions or making people take damage from their summons being destroyed.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16166 on: April 15, 2016, 06:46:51 am »

Emp, for the sake of my sanity, stop giving him ideas that San and I inevitably have to nerf.

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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16167 on: April 15, 2016, 06:51:01 am »

That wasn't a new idea. That was literally one of the constructs you rejected earlier this week. I was just suggesting that he heavily nerf it in line with Shade's suggestions to making it function solely as a shield. Plus you could rule that any damage to it beyond 0 HP hits Alanis anyway.

Though in hindsight, that would be equivalent to asking whether or not a Perk could force Pure damage to go damage its way through shielding.

Okay I'll stop >__<
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16168 on: April 15, 2016, 07:39:20 am »

yamal: "brb healing everything in three turns"
sometimes, the simple route is not the stupid route
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16169 on: April 15, 2016, 07:40:27 am »

too bad Haruka is a supportive archetype rip

also real replies will have to wait for an hour or so
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