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[martinuzz]

I don't know what to make of this new migrant dwarf.




Married to... Nguslu??? Never heard that name for a dwarf. I think it's goblin... (checks language raws...) Yeah, indeed. It's goblin for 'terror'. It does not exist in dwarven language.

It looks like this dwarf is married to a goblin, or to a goblin civilization born dwarf. Never seen that before.
Sadly, the spouse in question is not present with the migrant wave.
There's no long list of 'former member of' or any social skills at all, so I kinda doubt it's a vampire.
Still, I'm going to keep a very close eye on this dwarf.
Which makes two dwarves on this migrant wave that need watching. Another one is very likely a vamp.

EDIT: also, apparantly the age-old bug where babies entering the map in a migrant wave are dropped, and have to crawl their way to your fort is still present. I hope the poor thing makes it. There's already a buzzard circling over it 

[Illogical_Blox]

Huh, well that looks interesting. This world is really coming alive.

[Orange Wizard]

... ew.

[Naryar]

Yeah, I'm a goblin/kobold racist as well. Human/dwarf/elf multiculturalism is fine and good (even if dwarf/elf marriage is weird), but those...

Now the question is : do they breed ? And how are the children ? Can you selectively crossbreed goblins and dwarves to give dwarves [NOEAT] and remove max age ?

[Table Turning]

Maybe make a copy of your save and look in legends to see just who Nguslu is?

[Urlance Woolsbane]

Yeah, I'm a goblin/kobold racist as well. Human/dwarf/elf multiculturalism is fine and good (even if dwarf/elf marriage is weird), but those...

Now the question is : do they breed ? And how are the children ? Can you selectively crossbreed goblins and dwarves to give dwarves [NOEAT] and remove max age ?

Wait, is interracial marriage a thing in Dwarf Fortress? I've never seen it before. Granted, the game never fails to surprise.

[martinuzz]

I don't really feel like legends browsing, but I suspect that it's not an interracial marriage. IIRC, if two dwarves that are kidnapped by / converted to a goblin civilization have kids, they will name their kids according to the language used by the civilization they belong to at that time. So I do believe that it must be a goblin-named dwarf.
Just never encountered before yet.

[FantasticDorf]

I don't really feel like legends browsing, but I suspect that it's not an interracial marriage. IIRC, if two dwarves that are kidnapped by / converted to a goblin civilization have kids, they will name their kids according to the language used by the civilization they belong to at that time. So I do believe that it must be a goblin-named dwarf.
Just never encountered before yet.

In that case would the OP's civilisation be conquered or ruled by goblins? (confirmation would be much appreciated) Given the mixed integration of civ's.

[IndigoFenix]

Playability is tied to the entity, so the civ must be dwarven.  It seems that this situation could result if two dwarves were kidnapped and raised as goblins, they had a daughter who they gave a goblin name, and then that daughter migrated back to dwarf civilization and married a dwarf.  Goblins can choose to join dwarf civs, so there's no reason why a goblin raised dwarf couldn't.

[Burts]

Yeah, I'm a goblin/kobold racist as well. Human/dwarf/elf multiculturalism is fine and good (even if dwarf/elf marriage is weird), but those...

Now the question is : do they breed ? And how are the children ? Can you selectively crossbreed goblins and dwarves to give dwarves [NOEAT] and remove max age ?

Elf multiculturalism? Blasphemy!

Elf sympthatizers must be systematically obliterated.

[martinuzz]

Right. So.

Nguslu Hatredowned was the second eldest daughter of Uzol Snakessalve and Unib Valfigure.
They both were scholars who had decided to leave their mountainhome to study at the elven retreat of Vinewilts. They met each other there, and got married.

In the year 111 however, Vinewilts was assaulted by a goblin force led by a demon, who conquered the site and installed a goblin leader.

Uzol and Unib had two children before the site was conquered, they both got dwarven names. After the site was conquered they had another 5 children, who all got goblin names. Apparently, conquering of the site turned them from 'visitors' into 'residents'. Or else I'd imagine they'd have given their first 2 children elven names.

Nguslu grew up to become a fishery worker in the goblin elven retreat of Vinewilts, and in 130, she met my immigrant, her husband, whom I've aptly named mr. Goblinpants.
Apparently married life wasn't what she expected, because in the same year she got married, she started wandering the wild hunting for monsters, while mr. Goblinpants decided to stay behind in Vinewilts, where he worked as a fishery worker until he emigrated to my fortress.

Nguslu almost got killed by a zombie Yeti that ambushed her that same year, but escaped despite defeat.
In the end, monster hunting proved even more detrimental to her than married life. In 132 a polar bear ate her right leg for dinner. Miraculously she escaped, to be killed by a zombie polar bear later that same year.

[Bakaridjan]

What moral to draw from this story.....?

Ivory tower academics leave the safety of known society to explore exotic cultures and ways of living. Their kids however suffer from the stigma of being the short fat hairy barbarian children. The problem is only compounded when their enlightened peers enlightenment is not enough to save them them from their more rowdy and even more barbaric neighbors the gobos. The younger siblings, thanks to their new overmaster's attempts at social integration, are obliged to take goblin names and are now twice the object of ridicule as both elves and gobos direct their pent up aggression at the smallest minority. Angry and confused they renounce their parents privileged upbringing and opt for the lazy-ass-good-for-nothing simple life. When a "real" male dwarf comes along Nguslu quickly attaches herself to him hoping that he will be her salvation from her tortured upbringing. The salvation was of course chimeric, he-was-so-authentic / she-was-so-different were not a solid foundation for matrimonial harmony. In the end they split and she goes off to numb her pain by inflicting it on others in an inevitably self-destructive life-style. Her crushed former lover/husband keeps wandering around hoping to somehow fill that whole she ripped through his heart.

....books, should have stuck with the hammer and tongs.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalěs]

Only in DF.

[PFunk]

This is the quality that all DF clones fail to capture. None can instigate such a curious discussion and search for answers by reading a few basic details from a character's description or more importantly generate the confidence in there being an actual answer waiting buried in the save file somewhere.

[TheHossofMoss]

Right. So.

Nguslu Hatredowned was the second eldest daughter of Uzol Snakessalve and Unib Valfigure.
They both were scholars who had decided to leave their mountainhome to study at the elven retreat of Vinewilts. They met each other there, and got married.

In the year 111 however, Vinewilts was assaulted by a goblin force led by a demon, who conquered the site and installed a goblin leader.

Uzol and Unib had two children before the site was conquered, they both got dwarven names. After the site was conquered they had another 5 children, who all got goblin names. Apparently, conquering of the site turned them from 'visitors' into 'residents'. Or else I'd imagine they'd have given their first 2 children elven names.

Nguslu grew up to become a fishery worker in the goblin elven retreat of Vinewilts, and in 130, she met my immigrant, her husband, whom I've aptly named mr. Goblinpants.
Apparently married life wasn't what she expected, because in the same year she got married, she started wandering the wild hunting for monsters, while mr. Goblinpants decided to stay behind in Vinewilts, where he worked as a fishery worker until he emigrated to my fortress.

Nguslu almost got killed by a zombie Yeti that ambushed her that same year, but escaped despite defeat.
In the end, monster hunting proved even more detrimental to her than married life. In 132 a polar bear ate her right leg for dinner. Miraculously she escaped, to be killed by a zombie polar bear later that same year.

That's incredible. Thanks for digging that up from the legends!