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[martinuzz]

As is all livestock industry everywhere around the world. We do have a lot of animal welfare regulations and standards.
Sadly those standards are still pretty low, but there's a lot of intensive livestock industry in other countries where standards are worse or non existent.

[scriver]

As is all livestock industry everywhere around the world. We do have a lot of animal welfare regulations and standards.
Sadly those standards are still pretty low, but there's a lot of intensive livestock industry in other countries where standards are worse or non existent.

Slightly old data Going by anti-biotica usageas a measurement for animal health (more anti-biotica means worse living circumstances, as worse living conditions => worse health => more need to preemptively treat illness), not too bad compared to the rest of Europe actually. I expected worse given that one of the main correlatives with antibiotics usage is keeping the stock in too tight spaces and, as you mentioned, the Netherlands being a bit tight on space.

You can scroll the map over the years 2010-2015 (I chose 15 since it's the most current), it shows a great improvement in the Netherlands actually, possibly one of the biggest improvements in Europe (going only by glance). It's nice to see, hopefully it's been a continual trend afterwards too!

[martinuzz]

We have been improving animal living conditions consistently since the '90s. I think the lastest numbers are that we managed to reduce antibiotics use between 2010 and 2020 by 60%.

https://dutchreview.com/news/innovation/second-largest-agriculture-exporter/

[feelotraveller]

The hyperbole is stronk in this thread.

There are bans and then there are bans (not to mention bān's  ).

https://au.news.yahoo.com/china-fires-back-at-bcc-after-broadcast-licence-revoked-195859234.html

(Sure you can argue the toss, but it is hardly fitting to say my free speech is banned just because the Murdoch press doesn't promulgate it everywhere.)

[scriver]

Are you saying you think the BBC is owned by Murdoch?

[feelotraveller]

Are you saying you think the BBC is owned by Murdoch?

No.  I think only someone with severe sunlight imbalance could make that interpretation. 

(But on the other hand it is true that the BBC is closer to Murdoch, and closer to being owned by Murdoch, than the CCP.  )

[martinuzz]

Russian foreign minister Lavrov has threatened that Russia will break every and all ties with the EU if sanctions are imposed because of Navalny's imprisonment.

"We don't want to seclude ourselves from the global community, but we need to be prepared for it. To secure peace, is to prepare for war".

This is the most threatening language that has come from Russia to the EU in many years.

[Loud Whispers]

Russian foreign minister Lavrov has threatened that Russia will break every and all ties with the EU if sanctions are imposed because of Navalny's imprisonment.

"We don't want to seclude ourselves from the global community, but we need to be prepared for it. To secure peace, is to prepare for war".

This is the most threatening language that has come from Russia to the EU in many years.

That's a bad translation of si vis pacem, para bellum. They're saying "if you wish for peace, prepare for war." Which is to say they'd rather work with the EU but are prepared for an antagonistic relationship. Honestly I don't see what they were expecting; they've poisoned people on British soil and even German patience has its limits. The words are fairly tame but their actions betray a level of desperation

[martinuzz]

Political analists say it's just words. Russia is waaaaaay too dependent on trade with the EU to shut themselves off.
They think it's just desperation from the government, faced with way more pervasive unrest than they had expected.
Making a fist towards EU is an attempt to show their population that Russia is an autonomous world power that will not bow to anyone.

[Loud Whispers]

Political analists say it's just words. Russia is waaaaaay too dependent on trade with the EU to shut themselves off.
They think it's just desperation from the government, faced with way more pervasive unrest than they had expected.
Making a fist towards EU is an attempt to show their population that Russia is an autonomous world power that will not bow to anyone.

I highly suspect in any event of an EU-Russia trade war, Belarus would suddenly and mysteriously become a significant EU trade partner

[ChairmanPoo]

Political analists say it's just words. Russia is waaaaaay too dependent on trade with the EU to shut themselves off.
They think it's just desperation from the government, faced with way more pervasive unrest than they had expected.
Making a fist towards EU is an attempt to show their population that Russia is an autonomous world power that will not bow to anyone.

Well, we might be ordering sputniks by the dozen in a few weeks-months depending on how the other pharma companies pan out, so I'm kind of suspecting  LW is right.

[Loud Whispers]

It's Larry the cat's 10th birthday today

[martinuzz]

Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Leave Lobbyers

[Loud Whispers]

French and Russians hold a joint burial after a mass grave from Napoleon's invasion was uncovered

[Iduno]

https://twitter.com/misszing/status/1361275878332841984