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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7275 on: November 29, 2017, 07:58:58 pm »

Isn't that what Interpol does?
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7276 on: November 29, 2017, 08:40:01 pm »

I think Interpol are more of a liaison thing between police forces of various nationalities.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7277 on: November 30, 2017, 06:17:49 am »

I honestly don't know, it's the impression I've got from various depictions of it in entertainment which isn't neccessarily correct xD

Anyways, in other, balkan related news, seems that this morning a dude in Sarajevo was caught snooping around the US embassy, armed with both guns and explosives. Got caught in a random checkup it seems, not sure if or when it'll hit international news sources since it's kind of a local thing atm, tho with the US embassy being involved as a potential target it's only a matter of time.

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Nope, US embassy wasn't involved, instead it was a random checkup of his car after being stopped by the police. Dude had a bunch of guns, ammo, grenades and apparently a bazooka of some sort. Furthermore, he was fighting in Syria for some time before coming back home and being convicted for it. He then served 3 months (out of a years sentence) and was let go? I'm not sure why or how but he seems to have a travel ban until he serves the rest of it, which is kinda fuckin' dumb. He asked for it to be removed so he could visit his wife in Serbia (who was exiled because she was deemed a threat to national security).

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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7278 on: November 30, 2017, 06:58:15 am »

First thought about the three months stuff is that he had been three months in jail during the trial and that that counts against his prison time.

Purely speculating though.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7279 on: November 30, 2017, 09:47:16 pm »

Something interesting, the research/pollster group Chatham House did a study on the political spectrum regarding the EU and found that there are six political tribes ranging from the totally anti-EU to the federalists (most pro-EU). https://www.politico.eu/article/study-identifies-europes-six-political-tribes/

Though IMO, 10,000 people seems like a small sample given that 10 countries were looked at.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7280 on: November 30, 2017, 09:55:11 pm »

Mildly interesting but not anything revelationary
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Doesn't take a genius to figure out Europe is split like this. You got the extremes of 14% that oppose the EU ardently, the 8% that want the EU to centralize faster, the 9% who got europoored, the 9% that want to be more pro-EU but balk at the obvious criticisms, the 23% that like the way things are and the majority 36% that doesn't like the way things are but not to such a degree that they don't believe the problems can be solved within the EU. This pretty much corresponds to most all positions really. You get the two extreme wings of an opinion who are set in their beliefs and everyone in the middle that is drawn to one side but not committed

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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7281 on: November 30, 2017, 10:03:06 pm »

Please adjust these polling results for institutional bias by adding 16 points to federalists, 20 points to contented europeans, and 10 points to frustrated pro-europeans while subtracting 9 points from austerity rebels, 15 points from hesitant europeans, and 9 points from EU rejectors. The European Scientific Commission Review Board thanks you for your time.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7282 on: December 01, 2017, 05:30:39 am »

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The analysis surveyed more than 10,000 Europeans in 10 EU countries

So yay, another hipster research of a waaaaay too small group to be anywhere near representative for 'the EU population'.
It's a shame they even got paid to do that research.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7283 on: December 01, 2017, 06:42:24 am »

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The analysis surveyed more than 10,000 Europeans in 10 EU countries

So yay, another hipster research of a waaaaay too small group to be anywhere near representative for 'the EU population'.
It's a shame they even got paid to do that research.

But you can do statistics with a sample group of 10,000 just fine.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7284 on: December 01, 2017, 06:55:26 am »

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The analysis surveyed more than 10,000 Europeans in 10 EU countries

So yay, another hipster research of a waaaaay too small group to be anywhere near representative for 'the EU population'.
It's a shame they even got paid to do that research.

But you can do statistics with a sample group of 10,000 just fine.

In theory, perhaps. In practice, the population of the EU was around 510 million in 2016. That means their sample size as a percentage is about 0.002%. It's... not compelling.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7285 on: December 01, 2017, 06:57:50 am »

But you can do statistics with a sample group of 10,000 just fine.
Not when trying to represent a population of 743 511 (the frist number was for Europe, not EU) million, especially when leaving out nearly two thirds of it's member states as well.

It's wish-thinking of those that like to see a federal EU to think that it's possible to simplify 28 separate national political entities down to a common denominator.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7286 on: December 01, 2017, 07:37:33 am »

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The analysis surveyed more than 10,000 Europeans in 10 EU countries

So yay, another hipster research of a waaaaay too small group to be anywhere near representative for 'the EU population'.
It's a shame they even got paid to do that research.

But you can do statistics with a sample group of 10,000 just fine.

In theory, perhaps. In practice, the population of the EU was around 510 million in 2016. That means their sample size as a percentage is about 0.002%. It's... not compelling.

You can calculate the uncertainty introduced by having a sample group of this size.

Your required sample sized rises a lot less quickly than your population size:



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How many people are there in the group your sample represents? This may be the number of people in a city you are studying, the number of people who buy new cars, etc. Often you may not know the exact population size. This is not a problem. The mathematics of probability prove that the size of the population is irrelevant unless the size of the sample exceeds a few percent of the total population you are examining. This means that a sample of 500 people is equally useful in examining the opinions of a state of 15,000,000 as it would a city of 100,000
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7287 on: December 01, 2017, 07:44:02 am »

What's the source of that statistic anyway?
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7288 on: December 01, 2017, 08:11:37 am »

more than overall sample size, the problem lies in how those are distributed in the 10 EU countries, and the fact that they only examined 10 EU countries. Even if they picked the ones with largest population, that is still leaving out a sizeable portion.

Even being a federalist myself, I think politics and opinions of different EU countries can be quite different, especially on such a topic.

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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #7289 on: December 01, 2017, 09:36:34 am »

What's the source of that statistic anyway?

This report by Chatham House, a British think-tank.


I'm not sure what you guys are complaining about. 10.000 is a pretty big sample size. As for the 10 countries, well, the top 10 EU countries have 80% of the population between them. This probably gives you a good idea of the average EU citizen. Sure, there are certainly variations between countries, but the graph doesn't make any claim about proportions within specific countries. It's as if you were complaining that a US-wide presidential poll is bad, because it's not representative of Alabama's GOP leaning.
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