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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6000 on: May 31, 2019, 02:53:13 pm »

Vancouver has weed.  We'll happily take Amsterdam's tourist money if they don't want it.

Just uh, don't don't get your hard drugs here because they will kill you.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6001 on: May 31, 2019, 03:50:08 pm »

No, the drugs themselves.  We've got a bit of a problem of people mixing fentanyl into heroin and its killing a LOT of people here.   :-[  Government doesn't care though because drug users aren't real people.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6002 on: May 31, 2019, 03:52:53 pm »

Yo Dawg!

We heard you like opioids!  So we added an opioid to your opioid, so you can get high while you get high!


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More than likely, it's a combination of economics, and perceived intensity of the highs produced.

Fentanyl is a VERY high power opioid. It is used in end of life care, much like morphine. It is absurdly powerful stuff, and has a valid medical use for people dying of untreatable conditions, like bone cancer-- that are unimaginably painful without it.

Heroin is a recreational drug produced from opium, and is less potent than Fentanyl. People used to a dosage regimen of heroin will not know that they need to strongly cut back on their dosage, if that heroin has been mixed with fentanyl. As such, they take the dose "they are used to", and it subsequently kills them dead as hell.

The drug dealers use the fentanyl because it is more potent per miligram than heroin, allowing them to carry more value per ounce.  Pure economics.


Sadly, the knowledge that "Hey, this shit is WAAAAAAY more powerful than ordinary heroin" only gets met with 'FUCK YEAH! Gimme some!"
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6003 on: May 31, 2019, 04:23:23 pm »

More potent, and also is (or at least was for a very long time) available for much cheaper getting it from China than actual heroin.

There have even been cuts discovered in circulation that were mixed with carfentanyl, because seriously... Fuck living.

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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6004 on: May 31, 2019, 04:39:04 pm »

Had my job interview today and now I'm dealing with this sense of dread because I really would like this job but my brain's throwing a fit and saying I won't get it.

I hate my brain chemistry.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6005 on: May 31, 2019, 07:26:13 pm »

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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6006 on: June 01, 2019, 01:55:55 am »

Sadly, the knowledge that "Hey, this shit is WAAAAAAY more powerful than ordinary heroin" only gets met with 'FUCK YEAH! Gimme some!"
I watched a Youtube doco yesterday which said that, once an addict gets past a certain stage of tolerance, fentanyl becomes the only way they can get high, with regular heroin, morphine et al not even enough to alleviate their withdrawal symptoms. Shit's fucked.  :o   
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6007 on: June 01, 2019, 12:08:39 pm »

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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6008 on: June 01, 2019, 05:49:07 pm »

Why do people still do phone calls? Literally why?

Email, text message, instant message, snail mail, carrier pigeon: Receive information regardless of whether you're at home, at work, asleep, cooking, driving, etc. and respond any time that's convenient because they'll get the information at some point, whether or not anybody can answer right this second.

Phone call: "Hi, sorry we missed you! We're closing in 5 minutes and the next time you'll be able to call us back is in 4 days, give or take the time it takes the operator to get the biscuits out of their ears and pick up. We'll just keep calling you and hope random chance catches you at a moment when you're able to answer. We won't tell you what we want over voice mail because it's a surprise, tee hee~"
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6009 on: June 01, 2019, 07:25:50 pm »

Why do people still do phone calls? Literally why?

Email, text message, instant message, snail mail, carrier pigeon: Receive information regardless of whether you're at home, at work, asleep, cooking, driving, etc. and respond any time that's convenient because they'll get the information at some point, whether or not anybody can answer right this second.

Phone call: "Hi, sorry we missed you! We're closing in 5 minutes and the next time you'll be able to call us back is in 4 days, give or take the time it takes the operator to get the biscuits out of their ears and pick up. We'll just keep calling you and hope random chance catches you at a moment when you're able to answer. We won't tell you what we want over voice mail because it's a surprise, tee hee~"
Yeah, almost nobody I know well calls for non-emergency reasons.  Which makes it more annoying when I get called by telemarketers, scammers, or have to expect calls from businesses which just do things that way.

Direct family gets a pass I guess, though I'm glad my dad usually prefers text or skype like I do.  Though he and mom tend to voice call if I don't visit one of them for too long, which is fair and okay I suppose.

General business though?  Fuck, just use asynchronous communication, it's what it's there for.  It makes me think they're being willfully difficult.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6010 on: June 03, 2019, 07:57:02 am »

Heroin is a recreational drug produced from opium, and is less potent than Fentanyl.

Also relevant to the thread, it was designed to get people off morphine, because it was relatively not too addictive. For some reason (money), opium derivatives are still handed out like candy, and people are "surprised" at how addictive they are.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6011 on: June 03, 2019, 08:16:38 am »

Why do people still do phone calls? Literally why?

Email, text message, instant message, snail mail, carrier pigeon: Receive information regardless of whether you're at home, at work, asleep, cooking, driving, etc. and respond any time that's convenient because they'll get the information at some point, whether or not anybody can answer right this second.

Phone call: "Hi, sorry we missed you! We're closing in 5 minutes and the next time you'll be able to call us back is in 4 days, give or take the time it takes the operator to get the biscuits out of their ears and pick up. We'll just keep calling you and hope random chance catches you at a moment when you're able to answer. We won't tell you what we want over voice mail because it's a surprise, tee hee~"
Yeah, almost nobody I know well calls for non-emergency reasons.  Which makes it more annoying when I get called by telemarketers, scammers, or have to expect calls from businesses which just do things that way.

Direct family gets a pass I guess, though I'm glad my dad usually prefers text or skype like I do.  Though he and mom tend to voice call if I don't visit one of them for too long, which is fair and okay I suppose.

General business though?  Fuck, just use asynchronous communication, it's what it's there for.  It makes me think they're being willfully difficult.

Try having a deep and personal conversation over text before you diss phone calls. With text, what would normally take an hour instead takes a day or more. Typing out the long replies that such a conversation requires is a pain, and youíll frequently receive texts while youíre still typing a reply. Not to mention the fact that with texts, people sometimes stop replying mid conversation and you have no idea wtf is happening on their end. Sometimes they forget and donít get back to you.

With phones itís very clear when a conversation is over, you have the benefits of listening to a real voice, and youíre more likely to actually finish it and thus get something useful out of it.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6012 on: June 03, 2019, 08:22:51 am »

They can be convenient.  For my type of practice they are fairly inocuous to kidneys and liver, and won't mask a fever.  This is very handy if your patients are immunocompromised and you're going to treat them with highly toxic drugs.

I do find the usage of opiates in the British Isles as far heavier than I'm used to. To the point that I'm heavily reliant on the pain management team  (far more than I'm used to) because, as patients are casually  started and left on strong opiates for long periods of time, they are far less responsive to the pain control strategies I'm used to.  This has been a source of frustration for me.

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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6013 on: June 03, 2019, 08:25:23 am »

They can be convenient.  For my type of practice they are fairly inocuous to kidneys and liver, and won't mask a fever.  This is very handy if your patients are immunocompromised and you're going to treat them with highly toxic drugs.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #6014 on: June 03, 2019, 09:13:31 am »

They can be convenient.  For my type of practice they are fairly inocuous to kidneys and liver, and won't mask a fever.  This is very handy if your patients are immunocompromised and you're going to treat them with highly toxic drugs.

I do find the usage of opiates in the British Isles as far heavier than I'm used to. To the point that I'm heavily reliant on the pain management team  (far more than I'm used to) because, as patients are casually  started and left on strong opiates for long periods of time, they are far less responsive to the pain control strategies I'm used to.  This has been a source of frustration for me.

Maybe you need to be more reliant on the pain management team for personal reasons.

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