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Author Topic: Things that made you mildly upset today thread  (Read 819477 times)

hector13

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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5385 on: February 24, 2019, 06:05:36 pm »

Technically it’s specieist.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5386 on: February 24, 2019, 07:06:13 pm »

I don't see species; I only see lizards and non-lizards.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5387 on: February 24, 2019, 07:08:06 pm »

Damn lizard people taking the jobs of good honest humans....

I tell you, we need tto build a wall, and make Valussia pay for it
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5388 on: February 24, 2019, 07:11:57 pm »

When Venus sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're sending lizards that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems to us.
They're bringing space drugs. They're bringing laser guns. They're cold-blooded. And some, I assume, are good people.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5389 on: February 24, 2019, 07:38:06 pm »

Some of my best friends are lizard people, in fact.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5390 on: February 24, 2019, 08:33:31 pm »

That’s a bit cliche, innit? You’re obviously just trying to suck up to the Illuminati.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5391 on: February 24, 2019, 11:10:19 pm »

It seems like Scooty has abandoned VGCats for drawing porn on Patreon. While I can't fault him for doing something that's probably 1,000x more profitable than a webcomic, it seems like all my favorite comics are either dead, or take so long between updates that it's just easier to say they're dead until proven otherwise.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5392 on: February 25, 2019, 02:21:08 am »

It's kinda funny that I've still been checking the site every 2-4 weeks.  Even though the last update was last Carch, apparently, so very nearly a year.
It's not like the site *says* he was quitting the comic for a year, but he probably didn't know either.  It's funny because I understand the allure of flakiness.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5393 on: February 25, 2019, 02:56:22 am »

I survived the day at work, acquired some books and a CD, and even managed to get my payment reinstated for tomorrow - but in my exhausted state I didn't stop at the bottleshop on the way home!
Now I am without beer! Or spirits! The horror!
Actually I didn't think I had enough money left for booze or I probably would have got some. Damnit.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5394 on: February 25, 2019, 03:42:29 am »

All that "lizard-people" metaphor got me thinking about AI in science-fantasy and why it's always been fascinating to me.  Sentient entities, questioning what they are and how to act, living among their literal creators.  The exploration of their spirituality is one thing.  But then there's the issue of their "gender".

Well, obviously it's arbitrary right?  They can be sexualized, maybe even be trained into a gender role, but why would such an alien entity fit into our cultural binary?

But they're metaphors for ourselves, and this particular metaphor resonates to a painful degree I guess.
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5395 on: February 25, 2019, 04:25:36 am »

People have difficulty ascribing either "non-gendered" or "Pan-gendered" to PEOPLE.  they can ascribe these to inanimate objects or animal species, but not to humans, and thus, not to people. (even "different" people.)

They have a difficult enough time coming to terms with people who are "Just fine, thank you" with a lack of sexual impulse, such as myself. (You do not want to know the number of times I have been asked if I am gay. Seriously.)

I would presume that a sentient AI would assume a gender identity based on either personal preferences ("Gender X has all these things I find desirable associated with it, so I pick X when interacting with humans." type thing), or based on an "at creation" assignment that otherwise means nothing to the AI in question. ("that kind of thinking isn't very lady-like, ALURA." -- "What makes you humans think that I even care about such things?" type thing.)


As an aside, one of the tropes that gets flung around is the "mono-gendered species" trope.  Much to my dissatisfaction, this tends to always favor hermaphrodite or female gender.  There is almost no representation of all "male" mono-gender aliens. (Let's say that they reproduce "parasitically", via another client species, such as a domesticated herd animal, that both parents impregnate, but neither parent gestates, making both parents "male". Etc.)   Probably has to do with the "That's so close to rape, it makes me feel creeped out!" angle, but that would not eliminate the potential from being evolutionary viable, at least in theory. No more so than the kind of scary horror-show that flea and bedbug sexual reproduction is anyway...
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5396 on: February 25, 2019, 04:36:44 am »

The semen-blooded rape ogres are all male, and we see what that got us.

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« Reply #5397 on: February 25, 2019, 04:44:17 am »

Yeah, I'm sick of the Asari and all their earlier and later analogues.  I want to like the hermaphrodite thing, but of *course* the hermaphrodite race happens to satisfy a variety of fetishes common among young men.  Including lesbian sex.

Final Fantasy's Viera, for a bunny-eared example.  Wildly popular, who would have thought- and literally the ONLY female representation in their first game, FFT:A, aside from a few human NPCs.
Who wants to see a female Nu Mou?

There is, of course, a mono-gendered male species I'm uncomfortably obsessed with.  The Androsynth of Star Control.  Killed offscreen in the more memorable sequel, but given some chilling backstory.  Representing both human slavery *and* homosexuality.  and Devo, for humor value normal for the game...  But it's one of the more serious races, despite being absent.  I appreciate that.  A race of gay genius clones would have been hard to pull off respectfully - their partially-explained demise was chilling, and prompts one of the few actual moral choices in the game.

Edit: Wow, I sided with the space-fey to avenge the escaped gay slaves, instead of trusting the interdimensional eldritch *fingers*.  Why the hell did my brother never agree with me about that?  Because the fish-manifestations grant you somewhat useful ships?  They attack if you even ask too many questions.
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This one didn't want to be who they was. On the Surface – it was a dull, unconsidered sadness. But everything changed. Which implied everything could change.

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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5398 on: February 25, 2019, 05:20:57 am »

I just like playing video games where I get to shoot the bad guys and see them fall over
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Re: Things that made you mildly sad today thread
« Reply #5399 on: February 25, 2019, 06:27:40 am »

Video games are also a vehicle for interactive fiction (such as the story aspects of Mass Effect series, et al.)  Fiction is what relies on the archetype of "the other."  It is a literary device that is "Nearly human, but not", to help compare and contrast against the human reader, and human actors.

This above discussion was about the forms this literary construct can take,  (AI, Aliens, Mono-gendered sentients, etc.) and the often "human biased" aspects that are carelessly shoehorned on. (Gender on AI, Human sociality on Aliens, "mostly female for puerile reasons" for mono-gender sentients, etc.)

The lament was the lack-lustre application of the device, in cliche and stereotypical ways, rather then exploring it more deeply, and producing a better narrative.
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