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Author Topic: Design Engineers of The Republic (Weapon Design Game)-GAME DEAD  (Read 57959 times)

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 In the beginning, there where a large number of earth-analog nation-states fighting upon, and for, an earth-analog world. Or atleast parts of it.
 One of these nation states, The Monarchy of [Group A] was nearly successful in taking over much of its sub-contenent. Recently, however, its hold has been slipping, allowing one of its vassals to complete a successful revolution against it, retaking lands captured for centuries in the process.
 Now, The Monarchy of [Group A] and this newly styled Republic of [Group B] find themselves in a bit of a predicament. More or less evenly matched with the other, surrounded by smaller states that dont like either party, and now learning that weapons technology in the rest of the world has started to pass them by.

 Well, good thing you group of state-sponsored engineers are hanging about to design whats needed.


 
Spoiler: Rules (click to show/hide)

 
Spoiler: Technology of the Time (click to show/hide)



DESIGN DUMP AHEAD!
 Starting Designs:
Spoiler: 10x30mm cartridge (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: 37mm cannon shell (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Officer's Sword (click to show/hide)


Designs of 800


Designs of 801


Designs of 802


Designs of 803


Designs of 804
Spoiler: 10x60mmA Rifle Rounds (click to show/hide)


Design of 805


Designs of 806
Spoiler: 75mmR Shells (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Pattern 806 HMG (click to show/hide)

Designs of 807
Spoiler: 75mmR Shells(New Type) (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: 80mmM shells (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Swordfish Type B (click to show/hide)



Spoiler: Map (click to show/hide)

Want more games like this? Mostly ones that are dead? Check out this thread for info! (This is also for me to find it faster so I can shamelessly rip off study and emulate past games)
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 The dawn of the eighth century saw the design team of the Republican armed forces pondering what was to come. To them, it seemed that the world had just entered a golden age, wherein technological progress would allow the rapid development of new and interesting systems. The only question was how far things would progress in this century...
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Dam we are years out of date, the old fat kings have held us back for far to long.
We're still in 1860!


The Jupiter Automatic Pistol

A new modern pistol using the modern long recoil, rotating bolt action where both the bolt and barrel are firmly locked together as the whole system recoils backwards, only unlocking after bullet has left the barrel.
The barrel is 9 inch long and it has a fixed 8 round magazine in side the hand grip.

The Jupiter cartage is 12.5 x 30mm and built in the modern metallic type, useing "smokeless" powder


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So, theres two proposals. Any one else?
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 Noone? Allrighty then.

 
 By the year 801 the engineers of the Republics design team had settled into their work. Recognizing the drawbacks of the pattern 784 Revolver and its muntions, they spend the year working on a replacement, the Pattern 800 Jupiter Automatic Pistol, a long recoil, rotating bolt design with a fixed 8-round magazine, chambered in a 12.2x30mm rimless cartridge using one of the new forms of smokeless powder developed abroad. Seven of the engineers worked on the gun itself, the other three working on the new round.

(many rolls later)

 (17)The munition group works hard, eventually developing a powerful pistol round using the new propellant called "Cordite". This round is powerful enough to kill most opponents, at least those in range. (5)Sadly, the new rounds are expensive to produce, as not all the kinks in large scale production are quite worked out at this time.

 (8)Sadly, the engineers designing the actual weapon have a bit of a hard time with it. (14)The action of the pistol works well and screws up only rarely, (6) But the magazine is a buggy mess that loves to jam the weapon. Loading the thing is also rather difficult, as the engineers where unable to develop a reliable way to fill the magazine that doesn't take far longer than the revolver ever did. (20)(10) However, the weapon is extremely light and is somewhat easy to produce. Infact, loaded, the pistol only weighs about 2lb loaded. However, three of the engineers feel that they have a better idea of firearms design, and have become Basic Firearms Engineers

Spoiler: Designs of 800 (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Facilities/Personnel (click to show/hide)

 In international news, the first radio station to broadcast news started. It still uses Morse code and broadcasts crop prices and the weather, but its something. In addition, the first warship to have superimposing cannon has been built, armed with four turrets containing a pair of 10inch cannon, built by the far-off Oligarchy of Logmen
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7lb? That's over twice a normal pistol, even the massive Gabbett-Fairfax Mars pistol]http://www.forgottenweapons.com/early-automatic-pistols/gabbett-fairfax-mars/]Gabbett-Fairfax Mars pistol, the Desert Eagle's of the 1900's was only 3lb.


Ok let's put the gun on a diet, there must be some good weight saving to be made, and do something about the ammo an mag.


Heavy Revolving rifle
A scald down Pattern 793 Revolving cannon, it uses a new high power smokeless cartridge of 10x60mm.
Along with the smaller round, it has 5 barrels to the 793's 6.
The clips like wise take more cartridges.
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Heeey, someone else is using forgotten weapons!

Also, I initially went there to check  possible weights, found nothing, then farted out a number more suited to a rifle than a pistol. Which is now changed.
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 Anyways, any other suggestions besides the revolving rifle and smokeless round for it?
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Anyways, any other suggestions besides the revolving rifle and smokeless round for it?
Now that is good idea.

Mk 1 revolving rifle

A cross between a rifle and revolver, it carry's 7 rounds in a revolver cylinder operated by a large leaver below the trigger guard.
The cylinder cams back and forward to seal the breach.
To do this the end of cylinder is bored out so that it can slide over the barrel.

It uses the 10mm smokeless cartridge, or the new 10mm smokeless special.
Weight 8lb?
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10mm smokeless special
The base of the bullet is hollowed out and fined with gunpowder, then sealed with a cap and a small hole to facilitate ignition.
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 So, proposals:

Heavy Revolving rifle
 -Pattern 800 cannon scaled down to use smaller round, also less barrels {GMs Note: Is this meant to be an emplaced weapon of some flavor?}
10x60mm smokeless
 -For Heavy Revolving Rifle
Mk1 revolving rifle
 -7rd revolving rifle with the cylinder caming forward to close the cylinder gap
10mm smokeless special variant of the 10x60mm smokeless {GM's note: What is this intended to do? Act as a caseless round or explode at some point?}

 
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So, proposals:

Heavy Revolving rifle
 -Pattern 800 cannon scaled down to use smaller round, also less barrels {GMs Note: Is this meant to be an emplaced weapon of some flavor?}
 
A Gatling gun kind of thing, smaller and lighter than the 37mm cannon it can move about more.

10mm smokeless special variant of the 10x60mm smokeless {GM's note: What is this intended to do? Act as a caseless round or explode at some point?}
 
Caseless, it a copy of the Rocket Ball]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_Ball]Rocket Ball
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Allright, so, is it just a different bullet being used, or is the casing and its propellant removed leaving just the bullet?
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The ideas for it to have the bullet be the case so leave nothing behind.
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 So, a 10 by... probably a 10x20mm caseless round for the revolving rifle. Allrighty. And the Mk1 is intended to be able to use either that or the 10x60?
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So, a 10 by... probably a 10x20mm caseless round for the revolving rifle. Allrighty. And the Mk1 is intended to be able to use either that or the 10x60?

Heavy Revolving rifle
uses 10x60mm smokeless cartridge
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Mk1 revolving rifle
uses 10x60mm smokeless cartridge Or 10x60mm caseless round.
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