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ChairmanPoo

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« Reply #345 on: July 08, 2016, 09:23:27 pm »

I like to play this in the background while reading this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AtXx_8c4Wg

Makes every single post much more dramatic.
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« Reply #346 on: July 08, 2016, 09:28:28 pm »

fite me blad im beeb
Dare I ask what that is in English?
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« Reply #347 on: July 09, 2016, 06:39:52 am »

Kind of sad the destruction of the UK has died down.

Can we get some bad news to liven up our day?
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« Reply #348 on: July 09, 2016, 06:42:36 am »

That's why I asked, wasn't sure how it's handled there for sure. Over here you can be an American, or a State-an/ean/er/(ite?), or a parent-ethnicity-American, or a parent-ethnicity, or naturalized parent-ethnicity, or some self-chosen moniker if you wish. Melting pot and all.
If you melted down everyone into one people why aren't they one people?
They're all Americans, in the end.

"Americans" is more of a geographical based term than a people. Personally I think this is a key aspect of why there is so little loyalty and trust between americans. In contrast, I think the strong shared bond between people was one of the main reasons the Swedish/Nordic model socialism of the 1930's to 80 was so succesful.
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« Reply #349 on: July 09, 2016, 07:02:01 am »

Kind of sad the destruction of the UK has died down.

Can we get some bad news to liven up our day?
Don't worry, the GBP is still plummeting, we might get a worldwide depression yet. From which humanity will come out with a new emperor whose visage is at once both shocking and indescribable.
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« Reply #350 on: July 09, 2016, 07:08:40 am »

Don't worry, the GBP is still plummeting, we might get a worldwide depression yet. From which humanity will come out with a new emperor whose visage is at once both shocking and indescribable.
Looks like it's stabilising
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« Reply #351 on: July 09, 2016, 08:31:32 am »

Don't worry, the GBP is still plummeting, we might get a worldwide depression yet. From which humanity will come out with a new emperor whose visage is at once both shocking and indescribable.
Looks like it's stabilising
Russel brand for global emperor.
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« Reply #352 on: July 09, 2016, 09:28:38 am »

Don't worry, the GBP is still plummeting, we might get a worldwide depression yet. From which humanity will come out with a new emperor whose visage is at once both shocking and indescribable.
Looks like it's stabilising
That's probably because it's the weekend, the markets are closed and almost no one is trading. If it were to appear to stabilize on a weekday that would be a good sign. But even if it was to do so it won't change what's happening right now.

What is happening right now (or rather what will be happening on Monday because our financial system is so insane economic collapse breaks for the weekend) is that a whole mess of economic partnerships and contracts between companies inside the UK and outside the UK are being ended. Such things take a bit of time, effort and negotiation. Not all companies are willing to invest that time and effort just yet But as the GBP falls more and more they will see staying connected as too much of a risk. As more companies cut ties the GBP will fall more.

The British Finance industry as a whole is great reason for doom and gloom. It provides £41bn in taxes a year by itself. (for reference the entire British military budget is £40bn) Britain prior to the Brexit vote was the largest financial country in the world. (Yes the brits beat the Swiss in that regard) In fact Britain is where a large number of sovereign countries keep their current accounts as it makes dealing with European companies, governments and financial institutions far easier. Another reason to pick Britain was that it had a strong reputation as both an economically stable place as well as a politically stable one and in Finance reputation matters more than fact. That reputation is gone now. Most if not all the reasons Britain became a finance giant look to be stripped away with it's European exit. All those companies and countries that have accounts and ties with British institutions will be looking to move away. However as before moving that much money away requires negotiation and takes time. They aren't all going to vanish at once until we're looking at full blown financial collapse.
 
But I'm worried, I'd go as far to say I'm scared. Banks only hold so much money and it's usually much less than is in the accounts they hold because of how they make money. These big banks and institutions will slowly bleed accounts and clients until it becomes clear that they are going down. At which point we'll probably have a run on the banks, except this time it won't be the banks holding personal accounts and dealing out housing loans it'll be the banks handling the cash for multinational corporations and governments the world over that'll get hit. In short it'll be the banks that bailed out the banks in the housing crisis that will be hit hardest. Harder than they have ever been hit before.


Do I blame the leave voters for this? Honestly just a little, many seemed to ignore the economic implications but then not everyone is that versed in or spends much time thinking of economics. However I feel the lion's share of the blame lies at the feet of the UK government. If some one anyone had a plan things wouldn't be as bad. In fact financial collapse could be mitigated if not stopped outright if the UK government comes out with a clear, concise plan. It's still early, it's still at the point before things are irreversible. It doesn't even need to be a very good plan. It just needs to convince investors that they have some idea of what's coming in the future. But I do not have high hopes right now that they will.

So yeah, buy gold.
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« Reply #353 on: July 09, 2016, 10:29:00 am »

The world economy is such a fucking house of cards that its unsurprising that something like this happens and honestly, for a lot of people it won't matter, some people might even cheer at the big corps taking a hit over the little guy's vote.

It's ridiculous that we base so much of the worlds stability on something so inherently unstable.
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« Reply #354 on: July 09, 2016, 11:46:53 am »

In "where do the Tories go from here?" news, Leadsom suggests rhat her being a mother will help her in the role of Prime Minister.

Three words: Carol, Mark, Thatcher.   :P
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« Reply #355 on: July 09, 2016, 11:59:10 am »

The world economy is such a fucking house of cards that its unsurprising that something like this happens and honestly, for a lot of people it won't matter, some people might even cheer at the big corps taking a hit over the little guy's vote.

It's ridiculous that we base so much of the worlds stability on something so inherently unstable.
#bringbacktheducat
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« Reply #356 on: July 09, 2016, 12:01:42 pm »

I'll trade you TWO horses for your sister. How about that? Not one, but TWO. 
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« Reply #357 on: July 09, 2016, 08:52:00 pm »

Ahahahahahahahaha. Man, it's like this entire goddamn thing was steeped in lies like a too-strong cup of tea.

For those unwilling to check the link, a post-referendum study on voting patterns figured out that those figures on younger voters that's been publicised to hell and back since the results, where they were around 36% participation, was pretty much utter bullshit. Actually in the sixties, and on par or damn close to it to participation of every non-retired demographic in the country.

Looks like the youngins have plenty of room to complain :V
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« Reply #358 on: July 09, 2016, 09:25:02 pm »

Depending on your angle, you could as easily say rhat non-voters did not vote for <insert side here>, so increased voting from expectations actually makes it harder to say "but the non-voters, who tend to be <foo> supporters, would have done <whatever> to the result", or suchlike.

(And why, although here in context of the hypothetical adjustment not being so, is it perpetuated that 52:48 is a 'clear victory' for whichever side?  It's not a clear victory.  It's a marginal result, for a clearly polarising question that cannot be resolved by merely having a smaller majority vs an opposition nor even any useful coalition 'hybrid' answer to the public's ambivalance. The mirror result would have been just as unsure and (as we saw was originally suggested as a fall-back by the subsequent 'victors') would not have been taken as an irrevocable answer to the question.)
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« Reply #359 on: July 11, 2016, 10:37:55 am »

Theresa May gonna be PM, Osbo in Murrica negotiating with 20th level shekel wizards, Bojo and Govesniper backing May, Hammond already on the plan, Leadsom stepping down to support May

10/10 all according to keikaku
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