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Re: LCS 4.12.21 Now With A Save Editor
« Reply #135 on: July 24, 2018, 09:21:30 pm »

Is a way to make money through the writing skill also planned in the future? Something like writing and selling books or something?

Not legal books at least. It's important to maintain gameplay balance here. Anything that generates a decent amount of resources / money should generate heat. For example if you could write a profitable series of novels, then use that to safely bankroll the rest of the operations, it would undermine the balance of the game.
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« Reply #136 on: July 24, 2018, 11:13:37 pm »

Is a way to make money through the writing skill also planned in the future? Something like writing and selling books or something?


Also noticed a glitch
That, is an interesting glitch.  Probably part of the refactoring of cursesmovie.cpp
(I am not going to miss pdcurses when it's gone.)

Is a way to make money through the writing skill also planned in the future? Something like writing and selling books or something?

Not legal books at least. It's important to maintain gameplay balance here. Anything that generates a decent amount of resources / money should generate heat. For example if you could write a profitable series of novels, then use that to safely bankroll the rest of the operations, it would undermine the balance of the game.
^ That

For balance purposes, the writing skill is limited to reporting, or at least non-fiction.
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Many people, meeting Aziraphale for the first time, formed three impressions: that he was English, that he was intelligent, and that he was gayer than a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide.
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« Reply #137 on: July 25, 2018, 12:33:15 am »

How about writing and selling illegal books, especially under C+ free speech?
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« Reply #138 on: July 25, 2018, 12:21:03 pm »

How about writing and selling illegal books, especially under C+ free speech?
Ooh, that's a fun idea.  Farenheit 451 up in here.
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Many people, meeting Aziraphale for the first time, formed three impressions: that he was English, that he was intelligent, and that he was gayer than a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide.
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No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passe

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« Reply #139 on: July 25, 2018, 01:20:33 pm »

This idea is already implemented in the TV mod as an activity. You can find the code in the Activities.cpp file if you're interested.
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« Reply #140 on: July 25, 2018, 02:20:13 pm »

How about making backyard porn? The legality of it would change with the politics, and the profits would be inverse to legality. It would be most illegal in both C+ and L+ (christian values on one hand, anti-exploitation on the other). You make the "porn quality" a function of the number of people in the same location who are making the porn ;)

Alternatively, it could an anarchists cookbook type of thing - same deal, illegal under C+ (subversive) but also L+ (anti-weapons)
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« Reply #141 on: July 25, 2018, 09:19:15 pm »

Getting a constant crash because my Founder is dating a programmer and is going on vacation for a week. Advancing for a day causes the crash. I'm not sure why I can't attach any files, so have a Dropbox link.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fuhtugx4v1pp82e/LCSCrashSave.dat?dl=0

Additional info: Playing in Nightmare mode. Programmer recruited through "Programming" activity. I have one Liberal taking classes, and a bunch of liberated slaves/sweatshop workers selling brownies. Is there a way to edit my save file so that my founder ISN'T dating the guy and taking him on vacation?

Edit, dug around in the .dat file (non-verbose) and tried to delete the creature data for the programmer. Can't undo, already hit CTRL-S and "undo" doesn't work. Still crashes. Whoops. Good thing I posted my own save file so I can download it again.
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« Reply #142 on: July 25, 2018, 11:43:40 pm »

Getting a constant crash because my Founder is dating a programmer and is going on vacation for a week. Advancing for a day causes the crash. I'm not sure why I can't attach any files, so have a Dropbox link.


Additional info: Playing in Nightmare mode. Programmer recruited through "Programming" activity. I have one Liberal taking classes, and a bunch of liberated slaves/sweatshop workers selling brownies. Is there a way to edit my save file so that my founder ISN'T dating the guy and taking him on vacation?

Edit, dug around in the .dat file (non-verbose) and tried to delete the creature data for the programmer. Can't undo, already hit CTRL-S and "undo" doesn't work. Still crashes. Whoops. Good thing I posted my own save file so I can download it again.
(without that save file, this would have taken a very long time)
Fixed.  (also updated link in first post)
Recruitment is cancelled if the recruiter location is under siege.  Recruitment is cancelled if the recruiter goes on vacation.
If the recruiter goes on vacation, the "check whether this location is under siege" method checks whether "vacation" is under siege.  That causes a crash.
You can keep using your save file, I tested it directly.
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« Reply #143 on: July 25, 2018, 11:56:56 pm »

That was speedy! Thank you. Also, can CCS-captured safehouses be taken back from in this version? IIRC, earlier versions didn't let you retake safehouses that the CCS raided due to a bug. Just lost my abandoned meat plant to a CCS raid in nightmare mode.

Does Black Catsuit or Black Dress count as a disguise in Agent HQ, also? I can't tell since my Stealth is higher than Disguise.

Is it also me, or does "Repair Clothing" no longer repair damaged, bloody clothing at the base? It only seems to repair currently equipped clothing now. Is dodging bullets also possible anymore? I used the verbose save file to set my dodge to 99, but I still got shot dead by bullets.
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« Reply #144 on: July 27, 2018, 12:55:01 am »

Bullets can be dodged sometimes, but high skill with guns makes it possible to still hit
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« Reply #145 on: July 27, 2018, 11:40:15 pm »

Bullets can be dodged sometimes, but high skill with guns makes it possible to still hit
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int droll=t.skill_roll(SKILL_DODGE)/2;
Dodge rolls are capped at skill_roll/2.  Maximum possible dodge roll is 9.  Maximum possible attack roll is 18, plus a bonus based of "weapon accuracy".
This means someone with an effective skill with firearms of 9 or more can only be dodged half the time.  Even with a dodge score of 99.

Looking at the code, dodge is almost worthless against anyone capable of hitting the side of a barn.
It really only makes getting shot less likely to be fatal.

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if (melee && aroll < droll - 10 && t.blood>70 && t.animalgloss == ANIMALGLOSS_NONE
&& t.is_armed() && t.get_weapon().get_attack(false, true, true) != NULL)
Since dodge is capped at rolling 9, it's not actually possible to counter attack, since a counter requires "aroll < droll - 10"
And those two lines of code are the same in Terra Vitae, so it's been that way for a while....






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Also, I'm going to make it possible to roll an 18 on a dodge.  "t.skill_roll(SKILL_DODGE)/2" shall become "t.skill_roll(SKILL_DODGE/2)" (sort of, the actually implementation is more complicated)  Meaning if your dodge skill is equal to double your opponent's attack skill, your chance of dodging equals your opponent's chance of hitting.  That seems fair.
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« Reply #146 on: July 28, 2018, 09:30:56 am »

I also noticed that unarmed combat got "Number of attacks" and "Successive attack difficulty" values that are fixed in code, even though it's impossible to strike more than one time. Why is that?
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« Reply #147 on: July 28, 2018, 01:38:58 pm »

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Oh, it was there... in 4.01 and earlier. ;)

4.02 included experimental balance challenges to simplify some fairly byzantine mechanics in a large number of systems. The way it simplified attack rolls though crippled the counterattack system -- it reduced variance and removed the mechanic of blocking melee attacks using your own melee weapon attack skill. I'm glad you identified this because, even though the change happened more than 8 years ago, this is the first I realized that counterattacks died in that change.
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« Reply #148 on: July 29, 2018, 12:00:29 am »

I also noticed that unarmed combat got "Number of attacks" and "Successive attack difficulty" values that are fixed in code, even though it's impossible to strike more than one time. Why is that?
It results in damage being increased.  It's not visible to the player, so I guess "number of attacks" is used as a stop gap.  It's calculated differently based on what weapon is used, and it is utilized differently based on what weapon is used.
At least, that's my best guess.  It could stand to use some refactoring to make things clearer.
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Counter-Attacks: the Feature that was Never Fully Implemented!

Oh, it was there... in 4.01 and earlier. ;)

4.02 included experimental balance challenges to simplify some fairly byzantine mechanics in a large number of systems. The way it simplified attack rolls though crippled the counterattack system -- it reduced variance and removed the mechanic of blocking melee attacks using your own melee weapon attack skill. I'm glad you identified this because, even though the change happened more than 8 years ago, this is the first I realized that counterattacks died in that change.
Huzzah!  That makes it one [heck] of an obscure bug.

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« Reply #149 on: August 02, 2018, 09:36:37 pm »

Is a way to make money through the writing skill also planned in the future? Something like writing and selling books or something?

Not legal books at least. It's important to maintain gameplay balance here. Anything that generates a decent amount of resources / money should generate heat. For example if you could write a profitable series of novels, then use that to safely bankroll the rest of the operations, it would undermine the balance of the game.

Couldn't it be balanced by test selling novels making you more obvious and attracting dangerous haters to brseige your safe houses?
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