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[mirrizin]

It'd be nice, though perhaps it'd make the game a bit more idiot-proof, if you could examine a completed bridge and observe which direction it will raise in.

This is not the sort of thing one likes to learn in the midst of a crisis.

[SixOfSpades]

I think it's understandable to assume that the player would remember the layout of his/her own fort, so I can easily see why Toady didn't see it as important to include a directional reminder . . . but I also don't see any reason why it shouldn't be added.

Personally, the kind of drawbridge addition that I'd like to see is the trapdoor drawbridge: Open, it's horizontal and walkable. Pull the lever, and it suddenly drops right out from under you. It doesn't form an impassable wall like a raising drawbridge (the gap can still be cleared by flying/jumping), but you can pit a titan or colossus with it.

[mirrizin]

I think it's understandable to assume that the player would remember the layout of his/her own fort, so I can easily see why Toady didn't see it as important to include a directional reminder . . . but I also don't see any reason why it shouldn't be added.

Personally, the kind of drawbridge addition that I'd like to see is the trapdoor drawbridge: Open, it's horizontal and walkable. Pull the lever, and it suddenly drops right out from under you. It doesn't form an impassable wall like a raising drawbridge (the gap can still be cleared by flying/jumping), but you can pit a titan or colossus with it.

I think that already exists, it's the default if you don't set a direction. Pull the lever and the bridge effectively vanishes.

[SixOfSpades]

I think that already exists, it's the default if you don't set a direction. Pull the lever and the bridge effectively vanishes.

Yeah, that's a retracting bridge, which (like the raising bridge) becomes inoperable while a really big creature is standing on it. But I feel that dwarves should be savvy enough to design a bridge for the specific purpose of being a trapdoor, capable of pitting potentially any creature. Let the size limits of what critters can be dropped depend on the dimensions of the bridge itself, and the mass limits depend on the shear strength of the materials used to build said bridge . . . not by some arbitrary number that applies to all bridges everywhere.

[LordBaal]

What we have now is a bridge that raises upwards in one direction like a castle bridge, which is called drawbridge:


The retracting bridge, that slides under your feet:


What SixOfSpades means is a bridge that works like this:

[Bumber]

Aren't the last two functionally the same thing, as far as DF is concerned? If they weren't, then anyone standing on a retracting bridge would be pulled to safety, not dumped.

It's just the creature size that's an oddity.

[LordBaal]

Well the retracting bridge doesn't work when huge creatures are in it yeah, but it's also instantaneous, maybe that will change once we get mobile fortress pieces.

[Deboche]

I hope bridges are a placeholder for moving fortress parts so that you have to accomodate for where to and how the bridge will move and not just have it disappear.

As for big creatures, I don't know if they're gonna be multi-tile like trees or not, Toady's mentioned it but also how hard it is to implement. If so, then the bridge should move and the creature either trip slightly or fall down whatever its size allows for. I'm not sure this is even possible.

[mirrizin]

Ah. I see. I've seen retracting bridges work for goblins, for for FB's, etc. yeah. That would be nice. Might be a balancing issue where the dwarves shouldn't have something so simple, but in reality cave-in traps aren't that much more sophisticated to design.

[Fleeting Frames]

Similarly, a simple but time-saving change would be ability to see how well-built and -designed a building is without having to look through hundred+ bridges in Room menu when coming back to/inheriting a fortress.

[breadman]

Do hatches still work while huge creatures are standing on them?

[Bumber]

Do hatches still work while huge creatures are standing on them?

I think so. Just keep in mind that the important creatures are building destroyers, and would sooner destroy hatches than walk over.