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Author Topic: Gender/sexuality etc. - What Even Is A Gender Anyway  (Read 130091 times)

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Re: Gender/sexuality etc. - The dark hammer has fallen upon us!
« Reply #540 on: October 20, 2016, 10:38:42 pm »

"Bald" takes a lot of maintenance
What does that even mean
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« Reply #541 on: October 20, 2016, 10:55:10 pm »

And sexual desire is the desire for sex?
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Re: Gender/sexuality etc. - The dark hammer has fallen upon us!
« Reply #542 on: October 20, 2016, 10:56:30 pm »

"Bald" takes a lot of maintenance
What does that even mean
It takes work to keep your hair bald.

The analogy? I don't even know anymore.
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Re: Gender/sexuality etc. - The dark hammer has fallen upon us!
« Reply #543 on: October 20, 2016, 10:58:20 pm »

You, uh, missed the crazy guy.
If you mean someone who is somehow now renamed for some reason, I did respond to him. It got deleted in the derail :P
A) He asked for the rename. B) He was banned soon after, presumably for the very bizarre and obnoxious red glow text. It's what Toady meant by derails being "Less likely to be repeated now."
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Re: Gender/sexuality etc. - The dark hammer has fallen upon us!
« Reply #544 on: October 20, 2016, 11:13:16 pm »

Not the red text. He derailed and caught on fire. When Toady deleted the derail, he started it again. Also he apparently did poorly in other threads.
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Re: Gender/sexuality etc. - The dark hammer has fallen upon us!
« Reply #545 on: October 20, 2016, 11:18:13 pm »

Yeah pretty sure it was because he brought the derail back up immediately after it was deleted.
uh speaking of, moving on I guess

"Bald" takes a lot of maintenance
What does that even mean
It takes work to keep your hair bald.

The analogy? I don't even know anymore.
Yeah I'm not sure either now :P
I think I was saying that "bald" isn't a good metaphor for agender because baldness usually takes a lot of maintenance, agender doesn't.
Maybe atheism would be a better example than "bald".  Since it's just the lack of being tied to a gender identity.

In other words I think we agree, I just didn't like your metaphor :P
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Re: Gender/sexuality etc. - The dark hammer has fallen upon us!
« Reply #546 on: October 20, 2016, 11:35:54 pm »

But atheism does involve a sort of belief. A different, more rational belief, but a belief nonetheless.

Oh shit no. I'll take it to the Railgun thread. No derails.
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Re: Gender/sexuality etc. - The dark hammer has fallen upon us!
« Reply #547 on: October 21, 2016, 05:27:07 am »

Now with added merging!

The thing is... Sexual Attraction isn't enough for sexual intercourse alone. Sexual attraction is a lot like a sense.
Just to randomly say (your message was a handy hook, this is not aimed at you) I think there's "Companionship Attraction", too.  Maybe, where otherwise mutually compatible, overlapping with Friends With Benefits territory, but otherwise perhaps as close as a (close, but standard) sibling relationship, but chosen not preordained.  (Sexual-attraction incompatability might even be the lead-in to this other attraction, the lack of imperative or even threat from the start. But that's been done to death in drama and comedy alike.)

And also Attractions, of various types, need not be symmetrical or even sane. But if people find someone with a similar counterpart set of Attractions, there should probably be some wiggle-room for the minor mismatches.



It is entirely possible, in fact... usually the case... That you are sexually attracted to someone but sexually repulsed on the prospect and act of having sex with them.

... Not sure I would call that sexual attraction.

EDIT: In fact, that sounds a lot like what is widely referred to as "friendship" or "platonic love".
...looks like I should have read over the next page-boundary. Didn't see that specific point developing further (Still prefer the way I put it, though.)



But atheism does involve a sort of belief. A different, more rational belief, but a belief nonetheless.

Oh shit no. I'll take it to the Railgun thread. No derails.
Wrong thread for it, indeed, but you know that not all atheists are hard/explicit/strong atheists who "believe there is nothing". The default (so far as I'm concerned) is more "not believing there is anything". From there you can perhaps take up the contrarian beliefs to those who otherwise believe, of course.

I've said it elsewhere, but I'm not in the current hot thread on this topic and I'm not likely to want to say any more than thisbat this moment.

Move on, notning to see here.
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« Reply #548 on: October 21, 2016, 05:30:04 am »

Darnit. Triple-posted.
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« Reply #549 on: October 21, 2016, 05:37:14 am »

Darnit. Ended up triple-posting. Ignore.
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Re: Gender/sexuality etc. - The dark hammer has fallen upon us!
« Reply #550 on: October 21, 2016, 06:10:04 am »

Anyways, anybody want some of dat shaolin sex?
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Re: Gender/sexuality etc. - The dark hammer has fallen upon us!
« Reply #551 on: October 21, 2016, 06:14:17 am »

Just to randomly say (your message was a handy hook, this is not aimed at you) I think there's "Companionship Attraction", too.  Maybe, where otherwise mutually compatible, overlapping with Friends With Benefits territory, but otherwise perhaps as close as a (close, but standard) sibling relationship, but chosen not preordained.  (Sexual-attraction incompatability might even be the lead-in to this other attraction, the lack of imperative or even threat from the start. But that's been done to death in drama and comedy alike.)

im pretty sure thats what old couples have

Anyways, anybody want some of dat shaolin sex?

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Re: Gender/sexuality etc. - The dark hammer has fallen upon us!
« Reply #552 on: October 21, 2016, 07:12:06 am »

Anyways, anybody want some of dat shaolin sex?
Cinder you thai mother... yes I want some!
But I like to be treated nicely!
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« Reply #553 on: October 21, 2016, 07:18:03 am »

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« Reply #554 on: October 21, 2016, 07:23:44 am »

I'll be honest.  Im im the sexuality threads and I came out to my friends..  they laughed at me...  saying they already knew I was Bi.
Holy fuck...  its such a big weight off me now.
I feel so free.
Thanks Neon!
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