DF is not Middle-Earth, there're no carnivore treehugging elves in Tolkien and dwarves do not live in dirty caves, wearing rotting socks and vomition on each other, while the Carp eats everyone. Also Toady One commented the women beard out in the next release, thus no luck. All hail and worship Toady I say
P.S. Balathustrius, you're one of the greatest saviours of this thread.