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Icons, like ASCII but prettier.

Hand-drawn, like an old-timey sepia map.

Full graphics, like JRPGs with full-on sprites.

Same as the tileset ingame. Forests would use the tree sprite, mountains a rock sprite, etc.

Other. Please post your ideas/examples.

[Meph]

Gorlaks do have faces... BODY_HEAD:BASIC_3PARTARMS:BASIC_3PARTLEGS:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE. The color, you are absolutely right... I took the wiki picture as reference, should have checked the raws.

[Rose]

Meph, you can just spawn trees in arena mode for testing tilesets. Time does pass, and they do get flowers and fruits over time. You can even use dfhack to change the date and that will work instantly.


And it's mushroom men without faces.

[ZM5]

I was talking about Plump Helmet Men in regards to the no-face no-fingers/toes bit - I'm aware Gorlaks do have faces.

[Kromtec]

Gorlaks do have faces... BODY_HEAD:BASIC_3PARTARMS:BASIC_3PARTLEGS:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE. The color, you are absolutely right... I took the wiki picture as reference, should have checked the raws.

No, he meant the plump helmet men.

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Gorlaks according to Toady:

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[Meph]

No faces mean no expressions. I'll leave them in.

Goldenrod skin and red eyes coming up...


Any other things I've gotten wrong on the next_underground file?



It's floatin guts, drunian, creeping eye, cave crawler, blind cave ogre, cap hopper.
 magma crab, crundle, hungry head, flesh ball, elk bird, helmet snake.
green devourer, rutherer, creepy crawler, draltha, giant earthworm, blood man.
bug bat, manera, molemarian, jabberer, pond grabber, blind cave bear.
cave dragon, reacher, gabbro man, gorlak, cave floater, plump helmet man.
cave blob, amethyst man.

87 tiles in total. ^^

The missing children sprites are for the creatures without male/female caste. They can't have children, so I didnt design any.

[jecowa]

They're creepier with no faces.

[Rose]

I'm personally not a fan of the gorlak teeth. Makes them seem more evil than they're supposed to be.

[Meph]

But... but... they are smiling! 

[ZM5]

Seems to mostly be fine - the Blind Cave Ogre should be missing the eye though, and also only have two fingers (not sure if they're meant to be two claw-like fingers or more like a crab claw-grip). As with other cave critters, they're rather peculiar looking.

They're creepier with no faces.

Heh, yeah.

Admittedly, a lot of the creature would probably be a lot creepier than how the community interprets them. I.e people use the "cutebold" interpretation a lot, but given the drawing Toady used for them in Kobold Quest, and their in-game raws making their eyes glow yellow (their pupils themselves are yellow too), you probably wouldn't want to come across one on a dark night, despite how cowardly they are.

EDIT: Took a bit of a closer look at the green devourer - they are basically two-legged armless things with a featureless "head" that has no neck. They have those two fanged tentacles though. Think this drawing best demonstrates what they'd look like (though they have no eye on their "head" - I think their "bizarre appearance" prefstring is sorta underselling the truth).

[Meph]

Well, the plump helmet men I had before were like this:


But I thought it would be nicer to have a more... normal, friendly version, since they seem to be intelligent, fort-visiting entities that read and tell poetry and dance and the like.

Oh so slowly making progress...

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[Mrok Girl]

I for one like the plump helmet men with smiling faces <3

[Kromtec]

creeping eye - adult only has hands in your sprite instead of arms, child looks good
draltha - should be a huge massive grazer
manera - too similar face with crundle and gorlak - mouth should be more shark like according to wiki
jabberer - doesn't look frightening - looks like a giant puffy fledgling
cave blob -  should have a leathery half transparent skin filled with orange liquid
gorlak - I like the first design, but given that there is a drawing by toady himself I would give it tusks
plump helmet man - if you go with the more cute look - don't make the cap completely symmetric and I vote for no face

I personally don't mind if there are some easter egg sprites for rare creatures like the spider man or sonic ones.
But I don't think the more common creatures, especially the cave creatures should be to much "cutified" or made into a joke.

[Vordak]

What a stormy discussion of mushrooms.
Upd. child or other variation.

[Meph]

Cool

Vordak, could you try your hand at the cat-people? Like lion man, cheetah man, etc? They give me a bit of trouble. ^^ (or birds_new.png. I really don't like that file.)

[Vordak]

I will try with cats. How many it will take time - unknown, now unfortunately there are urgent matters IRL.

birds_new.png - is there a version without a background? How I understand that there are only to draw weapons and some clothes.