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Icons, like ASCII but prettier.

Hand-drawn, like an old-timey sepia map.

Full graphics, like JRPGs with full-on sprites.

Same as the tileset ingame. Forests would use the tree sprite, mountains a rock sprite, etc.

Other. Please post your ideas/examples.

[Hylum]

I had that with farm plots. Novaris mentioned that it's a vanilla DF issue (?). I haven't changed farm plots or anything related to them at all since I first did the plants a year ago. Only thing is the transparency that Mifki added.

Carpet tiles are custom workshops, they shouldnt influence anything, at all.

Is it a repeatable problem on your end? Does it  happen every time?

Ok cool, the Carpet thing was the same as the farm plot for me, where the game just closes. I will see if its repeatable. I think its probably just a vanilla DF issue or my system. I have had this happen in the past. Just need to save often.

[Meph]

It's really important that I know about possible crash sources. If there is even the remote chance that it's a part of the tileset/overrides/twbt, I have to fix it.

[Hylum]

It's really important that I know about possible crash sources. If there is even the remote chance that it's a part of the tileset/overrides/twbt, I have to fix it.

It is repeatable but I cant say its part of the tileset. When I am placing the carpet tiles it will happen randomly maybe every 10 or so. Same thing happens with farm plots. Only happens with those 2 so far. Game just closes. See if anyone else can make this happen?

[Meph]

try this: Type "twbt redraw_all 0" into the dfhack console; or permanent fix: Remove the line "twbt redraw_all 1" from the dfhack.init in the df folder.

Please repeat back to me if it works. I tried testing as good as I can, but it's a bit erratic. Sometimes it crashes when placing farm plots, carpets, etc, but other times I could place 100 of them with no issue. I only know that I could never get it to crash when I disabled the forced redraw mode of TWBT.

[Pvt. Pirate]

It's really important that I know about possible crash sources. If there is even the remote chance that it's a part of the tileset/overrides/twbt, I have to fix it.

had those random crashes when using 43.03 LNP with phoebus when placing bridges or constructed walls.
i hope it's not related to your pack.

[Meph]

If you had it with the LNP and Phoebus, it's not my pack. ^^

Sounds like dfhack. Especially considering that they are across different releases, with different tilesets, from different downloads. My best guess would be a plugin that hasn't been updated/tested that ties in into building placement.

[Novaris]

Best guess is the material tweak that keeps preselcting the material when you build walls or other constructions. You can try disabling that tweak in the dfhack.ini. The crashes with the farming plot are really old (back in 0.40.24), and happened with spacefox, mayday and phoebus, but not with vanilla df without hack.

[Meph]

Neither farm plots nor the decorational workshops require any materials. It never goes to the selection screen in the first place.

[Novaris]

That doesn't necessarily mean that the dfhack plugin does not trie to do something. I was able to avoid crashes when irrigating farm plots by having all seeds very close or wall off the section while defining the farm using locked doors. But true, both do not require material, maybe that is the common issue here? We could try adding required products to your reactions (like a statue for the statue decoration, cloth for the carpet, weapons for the weapon racks...) and if the crashes still remain we have circeled our waggons around the issue.

[Mrok Girl]

What is wrong with the dumping orders? I have several items marked for dumping and a few dwarves with nothing but refuse hauling enabled and yet nothing is being dumped. I think I had this problem in the previous versions of Mephs DF, but can't remember if I had it in different tilesets without DF Hack. Any ideas how to make it work? I have a werekangaroo body right next to the depot, it's bound to scare the traders

[Meph]

You probably didn't enable dwarves to gather refuse on the surface. Press o r o.

[Pvt. Pirate]

If you had it with the LNP and Phoebus, it's not my pack. ^^

Sounds like dfhack. Especially considering that they are across different releases, with different tilesets, from different downloads. My best guess would be a plugin that hasn't been updated/tested that ties in into building placement.

yes, i wanted to point out that i had this problem outside your pack
so it might be a problem with twbt and/or dfhack.

i haven't had any problems with your pack at all - except the need to start certain dfhack-plugins manually (until i find out how to make dfhack start them automatically (or you add them as options in the launcher) ).

[Meph]

What plugins do you want to start?

Could  you do me the favor and gen a world, use "twbt redraw_all 0" to disable that feature and try to crash your game using farm plots, carpets and the like? It would be nice to have a confirmation that this helps on another machine, not just on my end.

[Novaris]

I can confirm it helps.

[Pvt. Pirate]

What plugins do you want to start?

Could  you do me the favor and gen a world, use "twbt redraw_all 0" to disable that feature and try to crash your game using farm plots, carpets and the like? It would be nice to have a confirmation that this helps on another machine, not just on my end.

i haven't had those crashes with your pack. i also delete older DF versions once i tested the newer versions, so i cannot even try to reproduce the errors i had about a year ago. sorry if i wrote misleading stuff earlier.