As far as I can tell, it's safe to put two votes on someone but not any more in case they are scum.
hector13, what do you think of this conclusion and how did I arrive at it?
Reasonable conclusion, and I assume you arrived there by halving the number of votes it takes to hammer. Or hammer-2.
Arguably not so much a reasonable conclusion, seeing as though there are two scum. That's enough for a self-vote and a quick hammer by their partner (further assuming they're not already on the wagon)
Seeing as I want to get lynched, though, let's put me at:
hector13, Lynch-1
Here's my thought process:
If there are two votes on someone, there are two options. If they are town, it's good to get them closer to getting lynched (but scum will do everything they can to avoid hammering anyway). If they are scum, then the most scum can do is do a quick self-vote followed by a hammer from the other scum (or vice versa). But that would immediately flag the second scum as scum because it's really suspicious to put someone at L-1 with so little info. So the second scum has to either wait a bit to vote or convince someone from the town to hammer.
This follows my thoughts too. More on this later.
so hector, two questions:
Why did you self-vote? I mean yes, we all want to get lynched, but why did you think self-voting would make someone else vote for you?
I didn't think self-voting would make someone else vote for me. What made you think I did?
I thought you were going for a reaction test, so I reacted. I don't like RVS, so I decided to raise your reaction test and put myself at L-1. Like you say, scum!hector's scumbuddy is revealed if they quickhammer, and town!hector knows the rest of the Townies aren't going to pull the trigger a few hours into D1.
So, you and fillipk provide optimal town-ish reactions by backing off from that.
The biggest issue I have with the reactions, though, is they're
frickin' identical:
lol no unvote hector13
Hahahaha No. unvote
What should the rest of us think of that?
And a second question: How many votes can safely be on someone with no further info tomorrow?
If you want me to be pedantic, zero.
If you want me to be optimum, probably no more than L-2. There are two scum, therefore they need to convince two Town to vote with them to guarantee they get the lynch they want today.
However, at present, it's RVS, we have no information to be optimal with, and while pedantry is fun, it isn't particularly useful in Mafia. If we have no further information tomorrow, we're still in RVS, and you need to take risks to get information, so L-1 for a short time will probably be fine. Scum can't risk quick hammers at this point.
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