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Re: The Rogue One Thread
« Reply #30 on: December 24, 2016, 07:38:04 pm »

I think she was also CG.

I agree the film was pretty good, but it's mostly 'cause it's essentially the Star Wars equivalent of pantsu for established fans.
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« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2016, 09:01:59 pm »

The only reason I don't completely reject the Vader line is because of the characterization theory I once heard that Vader's actions before finding out who Luke is are all that of someone who is having a blast murdering his way across the Empire.

Still, the entire first half of the film is worthless and of no consequence. Leia's CG was the best, Mon Mothma's the worst. Tarkin looked fine when he wasn't moving.
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« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2016, 09:27:16 pm »

Mon Mothma was CG?
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« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2016, 09:32:32 pm »

Everyone died. So happy.
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« Reply #34 on: December 24, 2016, 10:12:33 pm »

Mon Mothma was CG?

Nope. She was played by Genevieve O'Reilly.


She was actually going to play Mon Mothma in one of many, many deleted scenes from Revenge of the Sith.
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« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2016, 10:18:29 pm »

Oh god, they actually made a human android to play Mon Mothma!?
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« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2016, 10:20:20 pm »

As if she was filled with life and character before. I've never seen Clone Wars where she apparently has a pretty big role, but every other spinoff I've seen her in she was as interesting as porridge.
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« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2016, 04:07:10 pm »

Was hesitant after TFA was meh. Went to see it anyways. Was blown away. Easily third-best Star Wars film, behind Empire and A New Hope (obviously). Looks like they went back and really studied why the original trilogy were beloved.

Okay, the Tarkin CGI + mocap was fucking excellent, spot on. The Leia one was too brief to really get a good feel, but frankly there's not a better way to use characters who are so distinctive if you can't find a perfect lookalike-it'd be like seeing cast from Spaceballs in the film, except even more SoD-breaking. Vader's line that bothered me wasn't the cruel joke, but a bit of the dialogue during the actual conversation, which seemed to be structured differently from his classic speech patterns. Annie is totally the sort of douche who, when he thinks he has lost everything, would just start enjoying being an edgy jackass.

The use of archival footage was tasteful and well-done enough that I didn't even notice. The themes, environmental motifs, uniforms and equipment, ships, &c. all felt very authentic. The ships and space combat in particular were very good CGI, I think, in that they managed to closely mimic the appearance of real models while taking advantage of the light and sound quality and detail possible with modern methods.

They still had one or two rather distasteful 'member moments, but for the most part it felt as if they'd figured out why people liked the first three and made a movie that conformed to the same underlying structure and to the tone and appearance of the universe, rather than a constant stream of 'member the Falcon? 'member lightsabers?

Oh, and Alan Tudyk <3
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« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2016, 04:19:05 pm »

Oh shoot, where was Alan Tudyk? Was he the voice of the droid?
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« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2016, 08:08:11 pm »

So, I re-watched it on Christmas Day with the family, and here are the things I noticed in the second watch-through:

The lasers seem to have varying strengths. In one scene, Jin shoots a stormtrooper in the knee/leg and he dies (obligatory Skyrim joke). Then, a few scenes later, while Chirrut (blind monk) is taking on the stormtroopers, he holds one up to the gun of another stormtropper as a shield, and he takes several shots before he dies.

Looking back on Tarkin's face, while he was talking he did look funky, but something I didn't at all notice. I saw no problems with Leia though.

I enjoyed rewatching it, though there was less emotion and suprise, like when the shuttle flies up to escort them away, and starts shooting I thought that was Imperial first time, and the time when she takes out her necklace and (I) suddenly realize it's a kaipur(?) crystal. Star Wars is one of the few films that I can rewatch, and this held true to that.

I thought that the music was good, and faithful to the old movies.

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« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2016, 08:17:03 pm »

I'm guessing that the knee-shot stormtrooper didn't actually die, he was just incapacitated from a shot to a more vulnerable joint section. Also the chest armor (which I remember is what took the most hits in the human-shield scene) would likely be the most resistant to damage.

He did take a somewhat ridiculous number of shots before he stopped flailing though.
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« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2016, 08:46:17 pm »

Considering that one blaster bolt was enough to explode C3PO and most people can only take one shot before dying in the originals, the best explanation seems to be that there are different blasters with more killing power, or else they're like phasers and have different power settings. They use a stun setting to capture Leia, so maybe the latter theory is better.

I think Leia's the only person in the original films that gets shot and doesn't die, because it grazed her shoulder.
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« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2016, 09:00:45 pm »

Or, just like with bullets, the injuries vary wildly. Sometimes you die instantly, sometimes you barely even bleed.
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« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2016, 09:06:00 pm »

Considering that one blaster bolt was enough to explode C3PO and most people can only take one shot before dying in the originals, the best explanation seems to be that there are different blasters with more killing power, or else they're like phasers and have different power settings. They use a stun setting to capture Leia, so maybe the latter theory is better.

I think Leia's the only person in the original films that gets shot and doesn't die, because it grazed her shoulder.
This part is most definitely true; just like modern guns there are different models of blaster with different specs.

Could be any number of factors for the differences in injuries, up to and including director fiat.
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« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2016, 09:22:44 pm »

Yeah, probably different energy output or something.

Oh shoot, where was Alan Tudyk? Was he the voice of the droid?
Yep. He's going to turn into the Sean Bean of funny, snarky characters if he isn't careful.
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