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[Bauta]

Hey guys, i started a lets play with a fortress which had the idea to be a offensive fortress directly in elvish forests.
The idea was to start a war as fast as possible and deforesting everything while defending against the elves.
Problem is that the elves wont declare a war despite me deforesting everything, insulting traders and seizing wares and killing a few of them.
What would be the quickest way to mod the game in a way that will make them atack/ declare war ?

[Skorpion]

Kill their diplomats.

[Bauta]

Thats the first thing i tried, they are not reacting though.
Does anyone know a way to mod a war in the inifiles or even a DF hack command ?

[☼Another☼]

Add the BABYSNATCHER tag to make them hostile, like goblins, or make all ethics the complete opposite of Dwarven ones.

[Bauta]

Are you sure this wont just result to them snatching babies and nothing else ?
I want actual sieges 

[☼Another☼]

Baby snatcher is essentially a power block tag. Anyone with it is against others who don't have it.

[Bauta]

Just went through the entity text
where do i have to add the babysnatcher tag ?
Under forest ?

[☼Another☼]

somewhere there.

[Fleeting Frames]

Note that ENTITY:FOREST in vanilla also only ambushes, never sieges - one or the other is the case with all vanilla creatures. Both tags together may result in weird behaviour, perhaps like whole siege laying in ambush groups.

[Bauta]

Can you elaborate ?
Btw after i set it the elvish civ still isnt shown as hostle in the diplomacy menu

[Libash_Thunderhead]

Well, in recent version I killed several of their diplomats until they sent 100 some war beasts and troops.
But the c menu still shows a green P, so I guess it is hard to start an open war. They will ambush you with an entire army though.

[vjmdhzgr]

Adding [BABYSNATCHER] won't do anything to an already existing world. No modification of the entity files will have an effect because they're only looked at when world generation starts.

[Fleeting Frames]

Not true. You can modify their SIEGE triggers in existing world and have that take effect.

[Bauta]

Not true. You can modify their SIEGE triggers in existing world and have that take effect.

How do i do that ?

[Fleeting Frames]

Modify the SIEGE_POP_TRIGGER, iirc, in entity_default.txt in your region file raws. Values 1-5 correspond to 20, 50, 80, 110 and 140 population.