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Author Topic: Starting a war with the elves  (Read 1712 times)

Foxite

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Re: Starting a war with the elves
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2017, 01:20:07 pm »

Kill their diplomats.
Do they even send diplomats? I only ever get their traders.

Anyway, I don't know many techniques to strain your relation to the elves, but I know that killing their traders and letting one escape makes them hate you more than killing them all.
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Re: Starting a war with the elves
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2017, 06:49:51 pm »

Kill their diplomats.
Do they even send diplomats? I only ever get their traders.

When I cut down all the trees, I usually get a diplomat who starts complaining, then I murder him for coming to my fort and talking that hippie BS at me.
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Re: Starting a war with the elves
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2017, 06:24:21 pm »

Now hear me out here. Your goal in going to war is to fight elves. Your goal in fighting elves is to kill them, thereby winning the war. It sounds like you're just cutting out the middle man here by killing them without war.
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Re: Starting a war with the elves
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2017, 11:02:31 pm »

I thought the goal was to be entertained by violence and the awesome fireworks of body parts flying every which way; or the grim satisfaction of seeing the fools who were sent to their doom be disposed of by dwarven ingenuity.

Otherwise, could just always gen worlds where elves cannot settle (by, say, having all the forests be terrifying) or mod them out entirely, if the goal was to just get rid of them.

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Re: Starting a war with the elves
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2017, 01:25:31 pm »

I thought the goal was to be entertained by violence and the awesome fireworks of body parts flying every which way; or the grim satisfaction of seeing the fools who were sent to their doom be disposed of by dwarven ingenuity.

This accurately describes the state of the elvish traders as it is, though.
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Re: Starting a war with the elves
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2017, 01:31:53 pm »

I thought the goal was to be entertained by violence and the awesome fireworks of body parts flying every which way; or the grim satisfaction of seeing the fools who were sent to their doom be disposed of by dwarven ingenuity.

This accurately describes the state of the elvish traders as it is, though.

The main reason I don't always just kill them is they don't even have enough for it to be worth the hassle.  I can usually just buy the entire caravan with prepared meals or something.
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Re: Starting a war with the elves
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2017, 07:33:31 pm »

This accurately describes the state of the elvish traders as it is, though.
Well, traders may try to run away in terror, and you don't get the satisfaction of them seeing their state of the art wooden sticks go plink on new 12-year-old's steel armor like stick on advanced metallurgy. There's nothing like "all of your best can't harm a single hair on the head of our worst".

(Yeah, I know, not actually quite true, what's with ears and tongues and joint locks, and now also removing gear from exhausted warriors. But still.)
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