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Kyubee

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A question
« on: January 18, 2017, 11:50:37 pm »

Can troglodytes use the large, human-sized weapons? I'm working on a Troglodyte based entity mod (With a modified Troglodyte as the creature and some other modded creatures for common domestics for them, but I don't know if they can use weapons like mauls or not.
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Re: A question
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2017, 11:54:19 pm »

Aye, almost everyone can use weapons so long as they can grasp.
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Re: A question
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2017, 12:00:51 am »

Aye, almost everyone can use weapons so long as they can grasp.

Not if they're too big for the species to use properly.



Cursory RAW inspection reveals the following:

1: Troglodytes reach a BODY_SIZE of 60000[Exactly dwarf sized] after twelve years. For reference, humans have an adult size of 70000

2: Mauls, Pikes, Halberds, Two-Handed Swords and Great Axes all have a MINIMUM_SIZE of 62500 and are two-handed until you reach a size of 77500.

This means that vanilla Troglodytes can't use those large weapons. It would however be fairly trivial to up the adult size of Troglodytes by 2500-3000 units, which would let at least the brawnier ones use big weapons. You could also move the MINIMUM_SIZE down the same amount for the weapons you want them to be able to use, but note that that would also allow dwarves/elves to use them, for better or for worse.
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Re: A question
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2017, 12:08:45 am »

Aye, almost everyone can use weapons so long as they can grasp.

Not if they're too big for the species to use properly.



Cursory RAW inspection reveals the following:

1: Troglodytes reach a BODY_SIZE of 60000[Exactly dwarf sized] after twelve years. For reference, humans have an adult size of 70000

2: Mauls, Pikes, Halberds, Two-Handed Swords and Great Axes all have a MINIMUM_SIZE of 62500 and are two-handed until you reach a size of 77500.

This means that vanilla Troglodytes can't use those large weapons. It would however be fairly trivial to up the adult size of Troglodytes by 2500-3000 units, which would let at least the brawnier ones use big weapons. You could also move the MINIMUM_SIZE down the same amount for the weapons you want them to be able to use, but note that that would also allow dwarves/elves to use them, for better or for worse.

Ah, I misunderstood his question, thought he meant if they were simply able to use weapons and such.
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Re: A question
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2017, 12:36:10 am »

Aye, almost everyone can use weapons so long as they can grasp.

Not if they're too big for the species to use properly.



Cursory RAW inspection reveals the following:

1: Troglodytes reach a BODY_SIZE of 60000[Exactly dwarf sized] after twelve years. For reference, humans have an adult size of 70000

2: Mauls, Pikes, Halberds, Two-Handed Swords and Great Axes all have a MINIMUM_SIZE of 62500 and are two-handed until you reach a size of 77500.

This means that vanilla Troglodytes can't use those large weapons. It would however be fairly trivial to up the adult size of Troglodytes by 2500-3000 units, which would let at least the brawnier ones use big weapons. You could also move the MINIMUM_SIZE down the same amount for the weapons you want them to be able to use, but note that that would also allow dwarves/elves to use them, for better or for worse.

Thank you! I'm trying to make an somewhat balanced alternate civilization with modified Troglodytes! They won't have any great combat alloys, but they will have more natural strengths (Including spitting molten serpentine) I suppose I'll up their size a bit.

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« Last Edit: January 19, 2017, 12:38:49 am by Kyubee »
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