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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #28035 on: February 07, 2019, 03:48:47 pm »

The mobile ecosystem is a motley assortment of corporations all hawking walled gardens that are mutually exclusive to each other (for the most part), and which all try to turn the user into a commodity to be bought and sold to advertisers or marketers-- Plastered over the top of a "user experience" program tailored to give the end user just enough of what they are actually trying to get done that they are placated, and accept the above bullshit.

That is to say, it is a vehicle by which to sell the afore mentioned customer exploitation as a service.

This is in stark contrast to the open internet, which was open and free to access (no walled gardens, all ISPs took you to the same internet) from its inception. (but which has been getting more and more locked in as time has passed.)



I personally despise that shit, which is why I avoid the "USE OUR AMAZING APP!" and "INTEGRATE WITH FACEBOOK!" and "OUR NEW EXCLUSIVE STREAMING SERVICE!" that everyone and their fucking dog wants to push all the damn time.   Sadly, My own purchasing/user habits are not sufficient to prevent the avalanche tide of the market's movements in this direction; The mass-complacency of the public at large concerning these antics from corporations and ISPs is allowing those big players to dictate the play-field, and it is quickly becoming a landscape where an informed user just becomes one that is informed about how they *WILL* be screwed, rather than one where said user can avoid getting screwed, simply from lack of such options.

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« Reply #28036 on: February 07, 2019, 05:02:34 pm »

How many of you feel that the mobile web is a strange alien place? I do, and am currently old enough to be president probably.

People as old as my parents felt the desktop web was new and strange and possibly scary, I always felt the laptop side was just a halfassed imitation of my full monitors/hardware, but the mobile shit is just weird.
I don't think its a strange alien place.  But I do think its stupid.  Go on the reddit mobile website (not the mobile app, the website).  Try to get the little thing asking you to download the reddit app to go away.  I couldn't.  (although if you can make it go away please tell me how but I don't think you can)

From a design perspective I don't get it.  The best way to advertise the app is to have the website be browsable on mobile.  Which means you're already maintaining two versions of the website: mobile and desktop.  By adding the app you're just making a 3rd version, yeah you have more options but you're making your life harder.  And on iOS you're arguably more restricted than you are on the internet because you're subject to Apple's arbitrary whims (see: what happened to the Tumblr app).

I assume its something like weird said where people are trying to turn their apps into money makers.
Uh, I've got ublock AND umatrix AND privacy badger AND css rules that force certain color/layout/etc standards on all websites whether they like it or not.

By default I don't allow anything to run on reddit so the page is half full of massively zoomed out .svg icon bullshit and then when I clickscroll to the halfway point I find shit like this:
Fuck you reddit, as much as I loved being an imgur user sub gatekeeper I hated morons on reddit posting every goddamn thing to public when they just wanted to upload it and get a link.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #28037 on: February 07, 2019, 06:22:39 pm »

Guys please this is ameripol not redditthread.

Let's talk about racist Virginians, not reddit idiocy.

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« Reply #28038 on: February 07, 2019, 07:20:01 pm »

Ah, but some of the virginians weren't racists, they were raPists, and a couple more letter subsitutions gets you close enough to reddit for my purposes.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #28039 on: February 07, 2019, 07:55:15 pm »

How is it that all three of the current Virginia line of succession on the Governorship are embroiled in scandal at the same time? Like, what are the chances that all three of these losers have their dirty laundry aired all at once?
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« Reply #28040 on: February 07, 2019, 07:59:43 pm »

How is it that all three of the current Virginia line of succession on the Governorship are embroiled in scandal at the same time? Like, what are the chances that all three of these losers have their dirty laundry aired all at once?
Eh, it kinda makes sense if one of them got found out first, then everyone investigate their friends.

If it was all at the same time, is different tho. :0
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« Reply #28041 on: February 07, 2019, 08:05:57 pm »

There are folks around who do research for politicians and their campaigns, so I’m assuming they were either hired to look into these guys specifically, or they were hired during the campaigns, and their opponents are now releasing this information for whatever reason.

Either that or Virginians really aren’t very good at keeping their skeletons in their closets.
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« Reply #28042 on: February 08, 2019, 12:29:16 am »

Breaking news: people exhibiting the tendency towards sociopathic traits which wind up being successful in politics have often done shitty things in the past, and people in the southeast US didn't see anything wrong about engaging in surprisingly racist activities while calling it "joking around" when confronted later on!
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« Reply #28043 on: February 08, 2019, 04:04:05 am »

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« Reply #28044 on: February 08, 2019, 04:23:49 am »

The green new deal should be taken literally, not just seriously. Too many people -- liberals included -- are saying it's a fun policy document but not practical.

Going to the moon in a decade wasn't practical, and we had far less important reasons to go than we do to fight climate change (and I say that as a space fan).

The Green New Deal doesn't propose any technologies we haven't already been using for decades. It doesn't ask for any policies that aren't already in practice around the world. There is only one reason to say it couldn't succeed, and that's because Republicans won't back it. Well, fuck that. Nobody wants Trump's actual, literal, physical wall, but everyone in the republican party is pushing for it. It's time that the Democrats start working together to achieve things that democratic voters want. Nor can anyone imagine a democratic policy proposal that Republicans are willing to back. Remember Obamacare? Remember how single-payer healthcare was beaten and trashed into a huge gift for the insurance companies in order to appease the Republicans? And how many Republicans voted for Obamacare?

Only two things could possibly have higher priority than preventing the avoidable devastation of human life and livelihoods over the next century, and those are providing immediate universal healthcare, and safely and sanely reducing our military excess around the world. Fortunately, both of those fit into the GND.
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« Reply #28045 on: February 08, 2019, 05:57:30 am »

You fuckers better appreciate that headline, I'm pretty sure it's the best ever written.

Pecker is the National Enquirer dude and is tied to the company that they paid Stormy off with, so they found some selfies and shit from Bezos  and sent him an email trying to blackmail him.

So Bezos exposed Pecker after he threatened to expose Bezos' pecker if he didn't cooperate even though Bezos now risks Pecker saying fuck it and exposing Besos' pecker!
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« Reply #28046 on: February 08, 2019, 05:58:15 am »

100% of power requirements filled by renewable energy within 10 years? I, uh... Well, it's admirable, but I don't think that's realistic. So as long as we're okay with not even getting close to meeting that deadline, it's a fine deadline to have.


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"It’s a socialist manifesto that lays out a laundry list of government giveaways, including guaranteed food, housing, college, & economic security even for those who refuse to work," Republican Senator John Barrasso, chair of the Senate Environment and Public Works committee, said on Twitter.
Mmm, yes. How dare they eat? Damn, dirty job-refusers...


That is one thing I've been wondering about though... In the event of drastic and rapid switching over to green energy sources, how realistic would it be to retrain petroleum/coal workers to prepare them for jobs in the new industries? How high are the educational requirements, and how much of their current educations can be built upon for retraining? Specialists are probably going to be up shit creek, but how many lower-skilled positions could be adapted?

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« Reply #28047 on: February 08, 2019, 06:25:09 am »

Depends if they are happy to relocate I suppose. If not, there isn't much you can do if the main employers where they live all shut down.
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« Reply #28048 on: February 08, 2019, 08:28:49 am »

The green new deal should be taken literally, not just seriously. Too many people -- liberals included -- are saying it's a fun policy document but not practical.

Going to the moon in a decade wasn't practical, and we had far less important reasons to go than we do to fight climate change (and I say that as a space fan).

You know, Trumpists say exactly the same thing about the Wall almost verbatim, including the comparison to the Apollo program.

The problem with the Green New Deal is not that it's overly ambitious per se; it's that too many of the details are too nebulous to determine how ambitious it is. The green new deal resolution now going through Congress is the political equivalent of a kid's drawing of an American flag on some random alien planet. It's nice, and we want it, but it's missing a lot of the how -- and, critically, definitions. Landing a man on the Moon was an unambiguous goal; everybody working on cost estimates and so forth had the same basic data in front of them about what had to happen. Carbon neutrality in whatever timeframe can mean a lot of different things, however simple it may sound as a sound byte, and the final legislation is going to have to lay that out much more specifically to be actionable.

Don't mistake what's going on now for apathy, let alone antipathy. There's just nothing to take literally right now at the policy level. When we have actual legislation with setting out properly funded mandates in process -- or, in short, when we know who the actual stakeholders are, pithy bloviation about how we're all stakeholders aside -- we'll get a sense of our actual capacity to implement those changes.
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« Reply #28049 on: February 08, 2019, 09:17:54 am »

We really should have considered the relative costs of landing the moon on a man instead.
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