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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #33195 on: November 09, 2019, 10:23:58 pm »

I didn’t think Bloomberg would run as a Democrat at all. If the DNC backs him, people would finally realize the “conflict between the parties” is a distraction, an illusory choice to attempt to hide that there is none. Unless third parties somehow get some power, but in order to do that they would have to fall to lobbying as well, turning them into just more arms the plutocracy can use to try to keep up the illusion of a republic.
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« Reply #33196 on: November 09, 2019, 10:26:38 pm »

Other victories in this election:

Socialist Alternative candidate Kshama Sawant wins re-election to the Seattle City Council, after Jeff Bezos spent millions to get rid of her. The council is also now more left-wing than it has pretty much ever been. Eat shit Jeff.

Working Families Party candidate Kendra Brooks has won one of the two seats on the Philadelphia City Council reserved for minority parties, which have otherwise historically gone to Republicans.

Chesa Boudin, son of David Gilbert and Kathy Boudin and adoptive son of Bill Ayers, was elected District Attorney of San Francisco. SFPD get fucked.

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Bernie and AOC held the biggest primary rally in Iowa of any candidate. It's happening.

Lula da Silva was released from his bullshit imprisonment in Brazil, endorsed Bernie and vice-versa, and is already performing speeches and union marches.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #33197 on: November 09, 2019, 10:42:06 pm »

Other victories in this election:

Socialist Alternative candidate Kshama Sawant wins re-election to the Seattle City Council, after Jeff Bezos spent millions to get rid of her. The council is also now more left-wing than it has pretty much ever been. Eat shit Jeff.

Working Families Party candidate Kendra Brooks has won one of the two seats on the Philadelphia City Council reserved for minority parties, which have otherwise historically gone to Republicans.

Chesa Boudin, son of David Gilbert and Kathy Boudin and adoptive son of Bill Ayers, was elected District Attorney of San Francisco. SFPD get fucked.

Honorable mentions:

Bernie and AOC held the biggest primary rally in Iowa of any candidate. It's happening.

Lula da Silva was released from his bullshit imprisonment in Brazil, endorsed Bernie and vice-versa, and is already performing speeches and union marches.
I’m glad there are good things happening
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« Reply #33198 on: November 10, 2019, 02:35:45 am »

Had an interesting and slightly inebriated conversation with a fellow last night, where he espoused the opinion that Bernie's advanced age is actually a positive trait.

"He's not going to get swept up and turned by corruption, because he's got nothing to gain," was the gist of it, "he's about ready to keel over anyways".

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« Reply #33199 on: November 10, 2019, 02:39:29 am »

The flipside to that angle, is that he does not have many consequences to fear from a complete and total fuckup, though.


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« Reply #33200 on: November 10, 2019, 02:49:54 am »

I suppose it would be an unusual trait for people who truly do not care at all what happens in the future to run for president.
And It remains unclear is presidents are liable to be held accountable for their actions in the first place. Maybe it makes no difference~
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« Reply #33201 on: November 10, 2019, 08:26:29 am »

I suppose it would be an unusual trait for people who truly do not care at all what happens in the future to run for president.

They can care about the future in a completely shitty way however. Trump's biggest "care" about the future is that he's now immortalized as an historical figure for all time. If he didn't become president eventually people would have forgotten about him. Fat chance of that now. He won. Schoolkids will be forced to memorize Trump's name along with the other Presidents for the rest of history.

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« Reply #33202 on: November 10, 2019, 12:45:53 pm »

I suppose it would be an unusual trait for people who truly do not care at all what happens in the future to run for president.

They can care about the future in a completely shitty way however. Trump's biggest "care" about the future is that he's now immortalized as an historical figure for all time. If he didn't become president eventually people would have forgotten about him. Fat chance of that now. He won. Schoolkids will be forced to memorize Trump's name along with the other Presidents for the rest of history.



Assuming historians don't become very vindictive and just erase him from history, and everyone just follows suit.
"So kids, we'll be learning about the 43rd, 44th, 46th, and 47th United States Presidents today."
"But what about the 45th?"
"The what?"
"The fourty fi-"
"There is no such thing. Anyway, moving on."
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« Reply #33203 on: November 10, 2019, 12:52:51 pm »

We'll just retroactively name Bernie the first executive of the American Communal Federation, thus making Trump a kind of Louis XVI figure.

I mean, not that he's not already the modern Louis XVI. The parallels are shocking.
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« Reply #33204 on: November 10, 2019, 04:43:45 pm »

In my schooling experience, they didn't really talk about any of the presidents besides about 2 until high school (you can probably guess them)

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« Reply #33205 on: November 10, 2019, 05:48:22 pm »

I guess washington and lincoln?
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« Reply #33206 on: November 10, 2019, 05:53:24 pm »

Not Underwood and Camacho?
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« Reply #33208 on: November 11, 2019, 07:34:06 am »

Seems like Republicans are learning from the south american far right:

https://yro.slashdot.org/story/19/11/11/0534250/thousands-of-bots-are-retweeting-claims-of-voter-fraud-in-kentucky

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The New York Times reports on what happened in the hours after Twitter user "Overlordkraken1" decided to tweet to his 19 followers that he'd "just shredded a box of Republican mail-in ballots."

Hyperpartisan conservatives and trolls were pushing out a screenshot of the message, boosted by what appeared to be a network of bots, and providing early grist for allegations of electoral theft in Kentucky. High-profile right-wing figures were soon tweeting out their own conspiracy theories about the election being stolen -- messages that were in turn pushed by even more trolls and bots -- and the Bevin campaign began talking about "irregularities" in the vote without offering any specifics or evidence.

Which is all standard operating procedure south of the border whenever the right-wing lose an election, the main difference being that the south of the border right-wingers are more highly amplified by compliant international corporate media.
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« Reply #33209 on: November 11, 2019, 10:24:04 am »

I would agree if we hadn't just had a similar thing happen in a neighboring state. With regards to a Republican destroying/modifying democratic voter ballots. It's worth looking into if only as a pro forma thing.

It's frustrating, and Bevin is an asshole. But there needs to be something there we can point at and say "Yeah, it was looked into." Not that it'll help anyone dead set on the idea... and it's all a fucking mess... but there's nothing you can do except follow the forms and hope enough people see that and continue to trust the system.

And that's coming from me, a person that already doesn't trust the system for a few specific reasons(most anywhere that uses electronic voting with no paper backups), but sees widespread uninformed mistrust as a direction we don't really want to wander in.
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