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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #33900 on: January 02, 2020, 05:43:58 pm »

It's not illegal to buy the ingredients and mix your own vape juice. It's just illegal to buy it in the form that most of the big tobacco/e-cig brands are selling it in.
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Anyone who really wants to will still get their fruity flavor and their nicotine juice, mix it and put it in a refillable machine.

Actually, this ban specifically exempts large tank-based vaporizers and their consumables, so no mixing will be necessary. People can just buy a jug of unicorn poop and pour it into their reusable cig pods.
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« Reply #33901 on: January 02, 2020, 10:02:10 pm »

Aw fuck here we gooooooo
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #33902 on: January 02, 2020, 10:06:10 pm »

I'm definitely going to get assaulted correctly predicting how the fuckin WAR WITH IRAN goes. Looks like the Ghost of John McCain will have his due after all.

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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #33903 on: January 02, 2020, 10:22:33 pm »

For those who don't know what MSH is talking about, US forces launched several airstrikes in retaliation for the recent attack on the US embassy in Baghdad, which in turn were retaliation for the deaths of 25 pro-Iranian militia who were allegedly behind rocket attacks that killed one American last Friday. The most prominent figure killed was Qasem Soleimani, commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard's Qud brigade, which is officially in charge of backing military operations in non Iranian territory - Solemaini himself was instrumental in the formation of Hezbollah, the formation of the Syrian National Defence Forces (a pro-government milita), and the war against ISIS in Iraq. Not only was Qasem Soleimani one of the top two or three people in the Iranian military, he was reportedly a close personal friend of Grand Ayatollah Khamenei.


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« Reply #33904 on: January 02, 2020, 10:45:55 pm »

Trump's administration has issued a ban on e-cigarettes, effective for all flavors except Menthol and Tobacco.

First of all, I recognize that many people, including children, have gotten sick and died in connection with vaping. If a ban is deemed necessary until research can be done to ensure that these products are safe, I wholeheartedly support such measures.

The measures are stupid.

We already know the entire reason there was a spate of illness and death.

The entire problem came from illegal THC vape makers using Vitamin E Acetate to thicken the oil so they could cut it but make it look more pure. The only reason that substance was used was because it has a similar appearance and viscosity to pure THC oil. As soon as it became apparent what the problem was, the main company importing the Vitamin E Acetate and marketing it as a cutting agent shut themselves down and basically the problem ended. So the stuff that killed those people is already off the market.

People have been vaping for years, but these hospitalization and deaths all occurred in a very specific time-frame: basically they ramped up after the company Honey Cut started becoming really successful marketing their THC-thickening agent. The real customers were illegal vape sellers who wanted to trick consumers that their bootleg THC vapes were pure shit, not diluted to hell. Making stuff illegal doesn't help with this.

This is just an excuse to ban rivals to cigarettes.

"Until the product is safe" is also pretty weird. They're replacing an extremely unsafe option: cigarettes, which have a very high known death rate. E-cigarettes don't need to be 100% safe, they just need a lower aggregate death rate than regular cigarettes.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #33905 on: January 03, 2020, 12:21:06 am »

Not only was Qasem Soleimani one of the top two or three people in the Iranian military, he was reportedly a close personal friend of Grand Ayatollah Khamenei.
I've heard it summarized that the guy was basically what you'd get if you combined pence and mattis for the US, and we just murdered 'im. Can't see this going well :-\
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« Reply #33906 on: January 03, 2020, 12:43:29 am »

Huh. This changes things, depending on how things work out. Starting a war in the Middle East in an election year would be a considerably stupid move. Depending on Iran's actions (and who sides with who), this might also accelerate the economic destabilization timeline. Or not.


Will have to wait and see how this week works out. Things are getting... interesting.

Also, to steal a quote from an article just written:

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This doesn’t mean war, it will not lead to war, and it doesn’t risk war. None of that. It is war.

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« Reply #33907 on: January 03, 2020, 02:35:10 am »

Well, all aboard the Interesting Times Express, I suppose.
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« Reply #33908 on: January 03, 2020, 03:22:57 am »

Remember: Poor kids are just as smart and as talented as white kids, and deserve the same opportunities!

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« Reply #33909 on: January 03, 2020, 03:26:02 am »

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« Reply #33910 on: January 03, 2020, 03:28:03 am »

I thought that was Sean Connery at first glance...

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« Reply #33911 on: January 03, 2020, 03:41:59 am »

Meanwhile, back at the senate..
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/devastating-blow-schumer-says-newly-unredacted-emails-show-why-senate-n1109641


See, this is why conspiracy theories that assert long lived conspiracies exist are nonsense.  Here, we have an actual conspiracy to withhold aid from Uktraine in exchange for election tampering activities, and it's unravelling fast. 

We are also bearing witness to an open-conspiracy between senate GOP leadership and the white-house to suppress due process.  This is not meant to embolden such nonsense, but to point out that conspiracy must eventually come to light, and the scope of the conspiracy (in terms of people involved) determines how quickly that happens.  Since basically half the damn senate is involved in the latter one, it's open right from the damn start.

We have some brazen fuckers in government right now.  Why do we keep electing them again?
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« Reply #33912 on: January 03, 2020, 08:38:24 am »

I thought that was Sean Connery at first glance...
Im pretty sure is actually him, Sean Connery was only one of the many faces and personas used by this guy in his operations all over the planet.
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« Reply #33913 on: January 03, 2020, 08:39:17 am »

Huh. This changes things, depending on how things work out. Starting a war in the Middle East in an election year would be a considerably stupid move.

It worked out well for Bush. He had a poor approval rating, but the narrative of not changing leadership during wartime got him re-elected, and improved his approval rating.


We have some brazen fuckers in government right now.  Why do we keep electing them again?

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« Reply #33914 on: January 03, 2020, 09:18:35 am »

So, my question is if Putin or Russia get anything out of this.  Is there anything they get out of it?  Sales of weapons to Iran?  Isn't Iran allied to Russia?
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