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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51615 on: September 21, 2023, 12:01:17 am »

... because it's staggeringly shit as written and the senate's already proposed something more reasonable.
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« Reply #51616 on: September 21, 2023, 12:30:10 am »

Depends what you mean by minority. Democrats want a deal to get done, the far-right Freedom Caucus in the GOP wonít support it.

"Even if House Republicans do manage to pass a short-term funding measure to stop the government from shutting down, the Senateís Democratic leader Chuck Schumer says the bill, as written, wonít pass his chamber, Politico reports"

SoÖ the ball is in the GOPís court, and McCarthy refusing to change the bill as a consequence of having to pander to right-wing nutjob to keep the speakership isnít going to make the Democrats look bad, is it?
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« Reply #51617 on: September 21, 2023, 03:08:29 am »

You want to say that people were stupid for designing crumply uni-body cars and cars are going to snap apart because of this?

"Crumply unibody cars" are perfectly strong in the frame. They "crumple" because they're designed to collapse sacrificially in a crash to protect the occupants. It isn't "deciding that I know better than the existing auto industry because I'm the smartest man in the history of everything" and making absolutely stupid design decisions while firing anybody who questions them.
So we agree that uni-body cars aren't going to snap apart on the highway when 72 non-load bearing parts are replaced by one non-load bearing part?

But because you wanted to cast Musk in a bad light, you wanted to imply the new part is going to destroy the reliability of autos on the highway? Did any "news" article actually say he was the one who wanted that change made? Why does it play back like a Fox News hit job?

He is just as much an authoritarian terd as any other business owner at that scale, but he at least stuffed it to the status-quo American auto-manufacturers who were stifling electric car development at the same time they were moving manufacturing jobs overseas.

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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51618 on: September 22, 2023, 09:12:36 pm »

SoÖ the ball is in the GOPís court, and McCarthy refusing to change the bill as a consequence of having to pander to right-wing nutjob to keep the speakership isnít going to make the Democrats look bad, is it?

Takes two to tango. McCarthy isn't in control of what Schumer and Dems find acceptable.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51619 on: September 22, 2023, 10:17:20 pm »

Ah yes, the classic "I know you are but what am I?" doctrine.
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« Reply #51620 on: September 22, 2023, 11:52:58 pm »

I mean, McCarthy's not in control of basically anything at this point and hasn't been since he made a joke of the speaker position in order to get elected to it, so I guess that's technically correct :V
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51621 on: September 23, 2023, 12:51:51 am »

SoÖ the ball is in the GOPís court, and McCarthy refusing to change the bill as a consequence of having to pander to right-wing nutjob to keep the speakership isnít going to make the Democrats look bad, is it?

Takes two to tango. McCarthy isn't in control of what Schumer and Dems find acceptable.
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The Republican McCarthy has repeatedly tried to appease his hard-right flank by agreeing to the steep spending cuts they are demanding to keep government open. But cheered on by Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner for president in 2024, the conservatives have all but seized control in dramatic fashion.

In a crushing defeat Thursday, a handful of Republican hardliners blocked a typically popular defense bill from advancing ó the second time this week it was set back, an unheard-of loss for a House speaker.
In this case the "two to tango" is the nutso republicans against other less nutso republicans, this isn't about the democrats at all.

Although the notion that you need "two to tango" in politics is laughable, a single group of crazies (far right republicans) or simple bad faith actors (regular republicans) can easily screw stuff up without needing the other side to do it for them.
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« Reply #51622 on: September 28, 2023, 12:11:26 am »

Anyone else think it's hilarious that McCarthy, who came across as a smooth operator during the previous debt crisis, is less competent than Mitch McConnell, who randomly shuts down?

Lesson in manhood: Be Mitch, not McCarthy.

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« Reply #51623 on: September 28, 2023, 03:03:57 am »

I think his veneer of competence was shattered when it took him 15 rounds of voting to become the speaker, and his negotiation seemed to mostly involve just doing the vote again until he panicked and caved to the nutjob wing of the Republicans.

Now his choice is negotiate with the Democrats and face a vote to oust him which could quite easily succeed given there are 12 rebels and a 9 seat majority, or do nothing and force thousands of people out of their jobs during a cost of living crisis.
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« Reply #51624 on: September 28, 2023, 04:02:51 am »

Something something raising foxes to guard your hens something something
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51625 on: September 28, 2023, 05:25:59 am »

So a year ago I was pretty hype that this one Brit got picked to be the head of the FTC, because her university thesis was all about how Amazon fucking sucks as it slowly strangles competitors to death whilst antitrust regulators just watch passively

And it looks like she's going to take Amazon to court for illegal monopolistic practices

Let's gooooooooooo

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« Reply #51626 on: September 28, 2023, 09:58:18 am »

I hope she breaks Amazon like the Greeks at Ilium
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« Reply #51627 on: September 28, 2023, 10:31:47 am »

I think it's not the same department, but given how the regulators are failing to stop the MS+Activision merger, I don't have my hopes up.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51628 on: September 28, 2023, 11:51:17 am »

She's also an amateur litigator taking on the best funded legal team in the United States, if not the World.
But hey, at least Bezos is probably shitting bricks.

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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #51629 on: September 28, 2023, 12:03:03 pm »

Anyone else think it's hilarious that McCarthy, who came across as a smooth operator during the previous debt crisis, is less competent than Mitch McConnell, who randomly shuts down?

Lesson in manhood: Be Mitch, not McCarthy.

I don't think he ever came across as a smooth operator. Inside, or outside, his own party.
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